Hijab

We are all immigrants, mardler, every single one of us. Is it actually possible not to 'like' everybody?

It is very odd that no-one seems to mind that some Christian nuns wear something extremely like a hijab.

Sometimes, when walking in Winter sunshine wearing trousers, coat, socks and gloves, I think, "I wonder if I'm getting a bit of vitamin D at least through my hair".

I think it's a sad thing that muslim girls are encouraged to cover their hair. It doesn't seem healthy to me.

Btw, I have been gunning for Nadiya all the way through the programme. I think she is a very nice young woman. (And I bet the Beeb are delighted that she won too )

And don't anyone DARE tell me I am prejudiced against immigrants

Are you sure you mean 'gunning', jingl?

(When I said "through my hair" I meant the sun getting through the hair to the scalp. I know hair can't make vit D )

I understand Nadiya is from Luton, fair enough, to those (a lot) north of Watford that might seem like an immigrant
She is a beautiful young woman with a true talent and love for baking, that is what mattered to me. Certainly "posturing" didn't come into it. How rude a comment was that! ( a few days ago, not present company)
I do see a lot of young women opting for the hijab during/ after adolescence and I assume it is their own choice as they are frequently (at least the ones I know) intelligent educated girls/women like one of our GPs, one of the pharmacists locally, a teacher at my last school as well as doctors and nurses.
Surely they are demonstrating that it is possible to combine aspects of their "traditional" culture with life in the 21st century.
My mother's generation wore a hat to church when they were younger, and we were expected to as children, some women still do out of choice, just as a pathetic example of something I have experienced

Oh no! I've had the meaning of that phrase wrong for years! just looked it up)

I mean 'on the side of'.

I thought she was a Yorkshire lass.
However, someone on another thread said that she (the poster) was Yorkshire first, British second - is that how it works?

Nadiya's 'show-stopper' cake was entitled 'My Big Fat British Wedding Cake' - a witty interpretation of the brief and looked utterly delicious too.
[mouth waters] emoticon

Any comments so far on Stu's hat which appeared to be glued to his head?

"Rooting for"?

I take vit D jing just to top up. Those ladies who cover up would be well advised to take it as well I would have thought.

Yes! That's the one.

#ageingbrain #myexcuse

Yes, I do too ww - when I remember!

I agree about the vitamin D though, especially with the full face, legs and arms covered.
I understand some in medical circles have also expressed concern.
It is hard enough to get enough in this country as it is, with the weather.

Elegran That's exactly what I've been thinking (about nuns). Something that I'm confused about is this - is the hijab worn for reasons of modesty? In which case, why do lots of the women wear (quite heavy) makeup? That is surely a contradiction?

Ps we don't get much vitamin d in the winter, that's why we have to get enough (safely) in our so-called summers to see us through; carry on muffling up in the winter, jingls, I would hate to think of you with frostbite!

Yes, I take Vitamin D too - but was a bit worried to read that the tablets could give you kidney stones

In my DDs Ladybird books, Mother always wore a hat (pronounced "het" in the 30's) when she went shopping with Peter and Jane. Did she suffer from Vit D deficiency?
On a more serious note I understand there has been an increase in the incidence of rickets among some immigrant communities e.g.in cities such as Glasgow although I am prepared to be corrected, where the diet is low in Vit D and the women tend to only go out heavily veiled, and are of course exposed to much less sun than in a hotter climate.

The 'posturing' quote was made by mariann who couldn't have read rosequartz's post of yesterday, 11:01.

It was a quote from a muslim journalist referring to 'posturing politicians'

'How gracious of granjura to say Nadiya may wear her hijab to her heart's content - even although that does sound grudging - '

how can anyone see this as 'grudging' is beyond me. What it meant, if this was not clear, was that Nadiya can wear what she wants, and this has nothing to do with you or me. In fact, I truly believe we shouldn't even be 'discussing' this- as it is not relevant.

She is a wonderful young woman with an amazingly supporting husband, and she was the best, and won, and we are all delighted, bravo, hurrah. And all the very best to her and her family for the future. Basta.

I don't care for the hijab, or the Orthodox Jewish wigs for women, and my mother recalled being delighted when, during the war, the then Archbishop of Canterbury said that Anglican women no longer had to wear hats in church, presumably as clothing coupons were too restricting (nothing religious there, then). If the sight of a woman's hair is so inflammatory to men, why not deal with the men rather than penalise the women?

What upsets me more though, is the sight of small girls wrapped up in scarves and shawls. I know it isn't as common for children as for adults, but I am so sorry for them if they are restricted at an early age.

Thank you merlotgran for the clarification re my original post.

Someone used the word in a completely different context, therefore completely contradicting the original meaning and intention of the journalist quoted.

Do posters just not read posts or is it done deliberately to provoke I wonder
Then tell us ..... - oh never mind!

Not worth getting about it

www.independent.co.uk/voices/great-british-bake-off-nadiya-hussain-serves-up-the-perfect-rebuttal-to-theresa-mays-xenophobic-a6686601.html

Excellent article by Simon Kelner in the i.
She's British. She must be because Cameron wanted her to win.

I think it is an Excessive dosage of calcium that can give you kidney stones rq. As you know the calcium tabs often come with vit d included.

brilliant article dj, thanks