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Susan Sarandon and Syrian Refugees

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rosequartz Fri 18-Dec-15 19:46:25

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/susan-sarandon-greece-refugees_56740c50e4b014efe0d50c45

hmm not sure how I feel about this which was posted by a lady who runs a small charity helping the refugees. On the one hand is it good publicity about the plight of the refugees and how much help they need?
On the other hand is it a Hollywood actress going out there and 'virtue signalling' (as they say)?

If she goes home and tells her compratiots that they need to take more refugees into their rich country that could be a good thing.
However, Greece (and Turkey) is really struggling to help the refugees.

I think that it's all the unsung heroes and heroines who are helping who deserve our applause, not a Hollywood film star who flies in and out with a film crew.

Or AIBU?

Anniebach Sun 20-Dec-15 11:21:32

They are invented for the use of those who enjoy patronising and putting people down

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 20-Dec-15 11:15:41

No. I think the phrase is very relevant to today's society, with its social media. These phrases are usually invented as a result of some sort of need.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 20-Dec-15 11:13:43

The answer has to be logical. I'm not sure what your answer to the refugee problem actually is. What would you do?

Anniebach Sun 20-Dec-15 11:11:34

Pleeeease, virtual signalling is just used in a useless attempt to shut up people who are more worried about people without a home than how does Delia or nigella cook the turkey

Anniebach Sun 20-Dec-15 11:08:31

I am being realistic, winter - cold, wind, rain, snow - no shelter - human beings

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 20-Dec-15 11:06:45

You have to be realistic.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 20-Dec-15 11:03:34

Yes. And of course, we've got room for all the human beings in the world in these little islands. And our NHS and schools have overflowing coffers.

Stop the virtue signalling.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 20-Dec-15 11:03:24

Yes. And of course, we've got room for all the human beings in the world in these little islands. And our NHS and schools have overflowing coffers.

Stop the virtue signalling.

Anniebach Sun 20-Dec-15 10:56:01

Human beings ?

rosequartz Sun 20-Dec-15 10:38:55

Failed asylum seekers are not refugees. There is a reason they have failed the criteria for obtaining refugee status.
(Destroyed papers? economic migrants?)

Anniebach Sun 20-Dec-15 10:34:54

What else can we expect when a member of this governments cabinet said in a tv interview, if we accept them here it would lower our standard of living

durhamjen Sun 20-Dec-15 10:13:24

If this country sorted out the tax problem, we would be able to help these refugees. This country helps rich people and companies avoid/evade paying their fair share of tax. Then we end up having refugees living on ten pound a week hand outs from the Red Cross. These are refugees who have been sent back to their own countries and been refused entry, so they live in the no-man's land of Leeds.

durhamjen Sun 20-Dec-15 10:10:27

This country helps refugees?

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/18/charity-appeal-red-cross-lifeline-refugees-lost-in-dead-zone

Read this. I feel ashamed.

Lyndie Sat 19-Dec-15 23:29:42

Whenever I see celebrities or reporters in these refugee camps or migrants travelling miles on foot trying to find s better place to live. I feel overwhelmed. It's seems a too big a task to complete and then guilt and wish I didn't know about it! I feel there is nothing I can do. The numbers are too great for countries or individuals to deal with. It's just scratching at the surface. This country helps refugees. We have no money really. Trillions in debt. We spend money we don't actually have! All very scary.

Eloethan Sat 19-Dec-15 14:54:32

I do think that some celebrities try to raise their profiles by doing "good deeds" or appearing on programmes raising money for charity. But that isn't everybody. Some of them contribute a lot in terms of time and money without making a big thing of it. I think it is the charities that sometimes ask them to front a particular campaign because a "celebrity" will get more air time/newspaper space than an unknown person.

There are a lot of decent, caring people in the world and I don't think there is any reason to suppose that "celebrities" aren't among them.

Anniebach Sat 19-Dec-15 11:54:28

Any charity who has a well known patron are happy for the person to fly in and fly out if it means a higher profile for the charity.

People do what they can, some knit warm clothes, some living in the area retrieve bodies from the sea, some fund raise, some offer a home , no one can do more than they are able to do and all are helping , no gold stars for retrieving a body from the sea more than knitting a jumper or making a film .

I can't go to Africa and dig for water but I can raise money for water aid , same for all who do what they can for the good of others

durhamjen Sat 19-Dec-15 11:32:50

She'd better get a move on, though, and get those refugees to the US, just in case Trump gets in.

Riverwalk Sat 19-Dec-15 10:56:37

From what little I know about Susan Sarandon over the years, I think she and her ex husband, Tim Robbins, were often involved in human rights issues and politics - so not just an airhead turning up for a photo opportunity.

She seems quite genuine and the US public is in need of a counterbalance to the views of their politicians.

petra Sat 19-Dec-15 10:38:10

Luckygirl. Are you saying you have never seen Thelma & Louise?

rosequartz Sat 19-Dec-15 10:38:08

Yes, of course they can do good, the more the better! Lots of ordinary people dedicate their whole lives to good causes. Some ordinary people have had to deal with the trauma of pulling dead bodies from the sea.
They are doing this day after day, often struggling through their own ill-health to help others.
Yes, of course these celebs can help and are perhaps not just seeking self-publicity.
It is just that not everyone has an an attendant film crew and beautiful rescued child to hand.
And often celebs fly in, causing a great deal of upheaval to day-to-day work of charities etc then fly out again, mission accomplished apparently.

Sorry to seem cynical and if some good comes of it, then good-oh.

I only asked AIBU?
Conclusion: IABU

Luckygirl Sat 19-Dec-15 10:26:04

I had to look up who this lady is.

I have no problem with her doing this if it draws more attention to the plight of the refugees.

Anniebach Sat 19-Dec-15 10:19:15

Rosequartz, I wasn't thinking of the queen , she doesn't do celeb , thankfully

Anniebach Sat 19-Dec-15 10:17:22

Sadly no they can't henetha

henetha Sat 19-Dec-15 10:12:49

I find it sad that there is so much cynicism. Can't people, well known or not, try to do some good without being sniped at?

rosequartz Sat 19-Dec-15 10:10:42

And I did ask if IWBU. I am open to different viewpoints.

I would not say the Windsors are celebs; their DM/DGM is our Head of State, not a Hollywood film star.

If SS can bring some pressure to bear on the American Government to take more refugees then all well and good. If she is trying to persuade us to dig deep into our pockets, I think many ordinary people who can least afford it are doing just that already. If she can persuade some of her filthy rich colleagues to 'dig deep' then good for her.