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to want HATE campaigns against foreigners in the popular Press to stop...

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granjura Wed 02-Nov-16 12:05:37

So many Gneters think that it is not fair to target the readers of certain newspapers - and yet- the front pages of some of those newpapers are full of hate targetting foreigners, day in, day out. Today foreign drivers who phone or text at the wheel. Phoning or texting at the wheel is a menace, and should be stopped - whether it is mum or dad on the school run, white van drivers or lorry drivers, anyone- irrespective of nationality, sex, ethnicity, profession - ALL:

Totally agree with his 'rant' of the sheer hatred and racism in the popular Press at the moment- which is spilling out onto our streets too:

STOP PHONING OR TEXTING AT THE WHEEL - be you Polish, or British, or a dad or mum on the school run, or a Trader, or ... ANYONE - JUST - STOP - IT - please.

M0nica Wed 02-Nov-16 19:15:07

The driver in the incident on the A34. our local road, could hardly be described as foreign, in the sense of a driver, who drives a foreign LHD vehicle in the UK and does not live in Britain.

The driver in the A34 accident had lived in the UK since 2002, working mostly as a driver. He was driving a normal British registered RHD lorry. He knew the law of the land he lived in and had no more excuse, or blame, for what he did than any other British driver.

Ana Wed 02-Nov-16 19:15:22

That would be a good idea - if only our police were so vigilant!

As it is, the number of drivers even prosecuted in the UK is far too low. Round here they just seem to turn a blind eye unless an accident is caused hmm

granjura Wed 02-Nov-16 19:35:39

This thread is not about driving or texting at the wheel - we all agree it is wrong, and criminal, and should be severely punished- FOR ALL. Confiscating vehicle would be a great start indeed.

This thread is about some newspapers using front cover after front cover spreading hate and targetting foreigners - as if they were the only culprits.

grannypiper Wed 02-Nov-16 19:40:58

Jalima, it should be an automatic ban here too. Can i just point out racism is nothing to with BREXIT,if it was then only Britain would have a problem with racism, Mainland Europe is full of it to, you may not notice it so much on your 2 week holiday but try living there

Ana Wed 02-Nov-16 19:47:50

Oh, sorry granjura, have we all got the wrong end of the stick and should be complaining about the effect Brexit has had on the tabloid headlines...? hmm

granjura Wed 02-Nov-16 20:20:13

No, no Ana - several got the right end of the stick.

But glad you got to the same conclusion all by yourself. Bravo.

Ana Wed 02-Nov-16 20:37:25

Possibly one or two, certainly not 'several' - but thank you for the pat on the head, granjura! grin

Deedaa Sun 06-Nov-16 21:23:09

I told DH that I thought there should be stronger penalties for HGV drivers using phones because a 40 ton artic out of control is going to be a much more lethal weapon than a Fiat 500. As an ex HGV driver he wasn't convinced, but he is against all distractions while driving actually.

As far as the headlines are concerned I'm really beginning to feel that I don't like the country I'm living in anymore. I don't like the constant talk about "The will of the People" especially when it's the will of just over half the people and I'm in the other just under half. It's beginning to grate as much as Cameron did with his "Hard working" families, which suggested that those of us who didn't work might as well shoot ourselves now.

granjura Sun 06-Nov-16 21:29:46

I am so glad more than 1, or 2- agree.

Im68Now Mon 07-Nov-16 08:20:32

You're only breaking the law if you're caught.

I'll just wait until the saints (liars) have a go.

Most of us are just too godly for this life.

The Koran and the bible have a list of punishments to fit most crimes, seems a bit brutal to me.

silverlining48 Mon 07-Nov-16 08:48:18

Most lorries arrive at Dover and drive through Kent, and need to drive on the other side of the road. we have had two terrifying experiences, both Bulgarian, lorries driven carelessly. A friend in her ka was dragged along the m20 by a polish lorry. She was told by the police that these drivers know they will get away with offences because police don't catch them and if they do British insurance companies don't chase these claims up even when information is provided, which was our experience.

I am not following the thread I know and do not support all the anti foreigner bias in some papers but would advise particular care is taken on the M2 and M20. I am now very nervous on motorways especially when in the vicinity of lorries Whether they are uk or foreign.

rosesarered Mon 07-Nov-16 11:03:57

Never reading the 'Popular Press' ( no newspapers at all) is the best way to keep blood pressure low.

Lazigirl Mon 07-Nov-16 12:40:47

It's not just one or two who "get the right end of the stick" granjura. There was a letter in the Guardian headed "No excuse for Mail slur against foreign drivers" signed by Harun Khan Muslim Council of Britain, David Walker Bishop of Manchester, Richard Baker Christian Aid, Rabbi Danny Rich Liberal Judaism and Ian Hopkins Chief Constable Greater Manchester Police and 49 others. I also heard Cardinal Vincent Nicols saying how corrosive the atmosphere had become towards foreigners since Brexit, aided by the media.

Tegan Mon 07-Nov-16 13:00:24

Daily mail headline today 'Houdini Hillary Escapes Jail'. Even if you don't read/buy these disgusting papers [I omit the word 'news' as they just full of sensationalist tripe]you can't avoid the headlines if you're out and about. They disgust me.

M0nica Mon 07-Nov-16 17:28:13

I am amused by all this vitriol about the papers. I happily admit to reading the Daily Mail and the i, oh, and the Observer and Daily Telegraph at weekends. Some days I read the Guardian as well. I couldn't care less if people make unwarranted assumptions about my political beliefs as a result.

The news in the Newspapers is a lot more reliable than any you can get online. You know exactly which party each daily newspaper supports and can factor that in when reading its views. All the papers have much longer and more detailed articles on subjects of note than you get online unless you do a lot of delving and they bring to view all sorts of news items you would otherwise never know about if you rely on the brief reports available on the usual news channels.

With News channels you usually have very little idea where they are coming from, especially when foreign and there was a very interesting article, I forget where, in the last few days describing how fake news websites are making up stories that then gain credibility by being repated on lots on internet sites.

On line news from BBC or Sky or OK, but they only report the foam of international news, top stories and 'what's trending'. Give me a decent Newspaper, any newspaper, any day.

granjura Mon 07-Nov-16 17:28:50

What is awful about all the Press and other publicity re Hilary's e-mails and the FBI- is that 100.000s have voted early their votes have been cast - and no 'ooops sorry, she actually did nothing wrong' will take them back.

Jalima Mon 07-Nov-16 18:38:08

I've been out and about today but did not see any headlines; in fact I rarely see them! If I go into a shop the papers are usually on a stand and I don't go and look at them.

It amazes me that the people who are most disgusted about some of the papers are the ones who always know what's in them
grin

Jalima Mon 07-Nov-16 18:39:37

I did hear that on the news last night granjura about the millions of votes already cast.
hmm could it invalidate the election result?

Ana Mon 07-Nov-16 18:41:39

Yes, why even glance at a newspaper stand if you're going to be filled with disgust and horror at the headlines? Aren't we all adults on this site?

Tegan Mon 07-Nov-16 18:54:51

Because they're usually right in front of you as you walk into a supermarket. On a large rack outside our village post office that you walk past to get to the shop. It's subliminal. What's it got to do with 'being adult' by the way?

trisher Mon 07-Nov-16 20:02:15

So as long as you don't read them, or actually look at them it is Ok for newspapers to make any sort of remarks about foreigners, Jalima and Ana? I wonder what else you would close your eyes and avoid seeing? Isn't that how the Nazis began targeting the Jews?

Tegan Mon 07-Nov-16 20:20:14

I don't know what's 'in them' Jalima because I don't read the trash. But when they use the front cover to print their full page, full colour, capital letters blatant lies it's difficult to not see them. Why should I have to avoid certain parts of supermarkets so as not to be brainwashed?

Lisalou Mon 07-Nov-16 20:26:55

It saddens me to see that a nation which has been multicultural for so many years, has in recent times become so racist, as reflected in the press, and I imagine in daily life.
I dont live in the UK, but have friends from different backgrounds living there, both British born and bred and people from other cultures. Many of them tell me that life is a lot less tolerant of others than it used to be.
I am unsure as to how much of this is as a result of the media, brexit, or just inmigration, but I find it sad, whatever the reason behind it.

As for driving while using a mobile, it is a terrible thing to do, and can have grave consequences, as has unfortunately, been proven on too many occasions. The reason that signals are not blocked for drivers (and yes, I am led to believe it is possible) is that many drivers abroad use their phones as a satnav, in order to direct them to their destination.

For those asking if using a mobile phone while driving is illegal in other countries, I can only speak of Spain, where it has been illegal (and pulls huge fines) since 2000. In fact, in Spain you can get a fine of up to 600€ whereas in UK it is only 100 pounds, from what i understand. Also, in Spain you automatically lose your licence for three months minimum, in UK you lose 3 points on your licence for the same offence - taken from the gov.uk website. www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law
. Maybe UK need to tighten their laws?

Ana Mon 07-Nov-16 20:32:46

OFGS just because we can read newspaper headlines without going into meltdown doesn't make Jalima and me tantamount to Nazis. Get a grip...

granjura Mon 07-Nov-16 20:39:27

Ana - I like to buy some newspapers and magazines - and there is no way I can be expected to avoid any areas that sell them to avoid seeing this vile racist - why should I, or anyone. They are all over FB and other social media- because they are so shocking and disgusting and racist, and more.

At least the porn mags, which are much less damaging to society, are put where your eyes don't scan and have plain covers in front so as not to offend. FFS indeed.