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to want HATE campaigns against foreigners in the popular Press to stop...

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granjura Wed 02-Nov-16 12:05:37

So many Gneters think that it is not fair to target the readers of certain newspapers - and yet- the front pages of some of those newpapers are full of hate targetting foreigners, day in, day out. Today foreign drivers who phone or text at the wheel. Phoning or texting at the wheel is a menace, and should be stopped - whether it is mum or dad on the school run, white van drivers or lorry drivers, anyone- irrespective of nationality, sex, ethnicity, profession - ALL:

Totally agree with his 'rant' of the sheer hatred and racism in the popular Press at the moment- which is spilling out onto our streets too:

STOP PHONING OR TEXTING AT THE WHEEL - be you Polish, or British, or a dad or mum on the school run, or a Trader, or ... ANYONE - JUST - STOP - IT - please.

Ana Mon 07-Nov-16 21:16:40

granjura I do hope you have noted that I did not post FFS but FGS which for your information stands for 'for goodness sake'.

If grown-up people are unable to wander around a town centre without having a fit of the vapours because of newspaper headlines that's their proble,m.

granjura Mon 07-Nov-16 21:37:29

As an adult, I am fully aware of the significance of those abbreviation, and my little alteration was quite deliberate.

If you get the vapours over it, it is indeed your problem.

As for headlines inciting racism and intolerance, - it is a completely different kettle of hatred fish - and no, it is not acceptable and the slippery slope to fascims, always has been. And as always, a significant proportion chose to ignore it at best, act upon it and excuse it, at worst. Vapours ... yet.

Jalima Mon 07-Nov-16 22:03:48

I wonder what else you would close your eyes and avoid seeing? Isn't that how the Nazis began targeting the Jews?
for fuck's sake

and that from someone who doesn't swear

Jalima Mon 07-Nov-16 22:22:59

So then - what are you doing to stop headlines you dislike in the national press?

Are you starting a campaign, marching in the streets? Or just complaining on social media and getting annoyed with other people who don't read the papers or scour the supermarkets looking at the headlines?

They are not in my line of vision in my local supermarket, I usually go straight to the fruit and veg.

I would rather give the £1 a day or whatever it costs for a paper towards helping refugees.

rosesarered Mon 07-Nov-16 22:29:17

I think we should have a version of the drinking game on here, so that any thread that gets a Nazi comment ( it's a regular occurrence on this forum) grin we shout 'Nazi'
And have a swig wine wine wine

Jalima Mon 07-Nov-16 22:39:21

What - more wine ?
I have been out this evening and already had two wine

mustn't over do it! Not on a Monday night anyway

trisher Mon 07-Nov-16 23:35:10

In order to tackle any problem it is first necessary to admit that there is one. Why would you think that this is not a cause for concern? Because you don't see it? That is an excuse used throughout history to excuse persecution and victimization. It isn't necessary to buy the papers in question to be aware of the things being said. I actually have more respect for people who buy these papers and mistakenly believe the misinformation they are being fed, than I do for people who prefer to turn away and ignore the problem. Especially when they can only curse and rant when they are questioned about their attitude.

Lisalou Tue 08-Nov-16 05:12:43

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Jalima Tue 08-Nov-16 10:42:35

Sorry, my mind was concentrated on Aleppo and an aid convoy getting through.

I will try to get down to the newsagents and buy the DM and read it from cover to cover then start ranting. unless i read it for myself i will only have someone else's interpretation of what it says.

That is an interesting point trisher - you respect people who read the DM?
Not sure some other posters would agree with you.
hmm
I have respect for people who are kind and do good in their lives to help others - doers rather than complainers.

One such poster who does such a lot of good has been horribly treated on some threads angry

Jalima Tue 08-Nov-16 10:45:19

I was a trade union rep - does that count Lisalou?
However, being retired now I am no longer one.

Lazigirl Tue 08-Nov-16 10:53:03

Why can't you be kind and do good but also rail against what you see as wrong Jalima?

trisher Tue 08-Nov-16 11:12:29

I also said I had MORE respect for the DM readers who are misled Jalima. It perhaps indicates the little respect (if any) I have for someone who constantly adds to their post the idea that they are in some way better than the rest of us because they care about refugees and Aleppo. This thread isn't about them, so why do you feel the need to keep telling us how much you care about them?

silverlining48 Tue 08-Nov-16 11:48:08

I came over to the uk from Germany as a baby over 65 years ago. When I started school at 5 some of my classmates said I was a nazi. I didn't know what it was and had to ask my mum.
I still remember how I felt and how my dear mum felt when I told her. Out of the mouths of babes.

magpie123 Tue 08-Nov-16 13:12:04

Perhaps The Daily Mail should be sold in a brown paper bagsmile how ridiculous and over the top some posters are get a grip.

Lazigirl Tue 08-Nov-16 13:33:14

Perhaps Prince Harry "should get a grip" and quit complaining about the nasty sexist and racist treatment of his girlfriend in the media, including our lovely tabloids.

Elegran Tue 08-Nov-16 13:58:26

From her photo she looks like a nice girl. I hope the media doesn't hound her out of his life.

rosesarered Tue 08-Nov-16 13:58:55

Magpie grin was thinking the very same! Or perhaps kept in a back room or under the counter.

granjura Tue 08-Nov-16 14:03:49

yes, it should. Brilliant idea, thanks. The Sun too of course.
Or will you argue they are very different and its ok to 'judge' those who read the Sun but not the Daily Trash ;)

rosesarered Tue 08-Nov-16 14:13:38

IMHO nobody should be judged about what newspaper they read at all.....even The Guardian!

TriciaF Tue 08-Nov-16 14:34:49

It could also be argued that it's everyone's duty to read all the trashy tabloids (and the broadsheets aren't much different). So as to get a balanced view of how public opinion is formed.
Beside the point I know, but I'm trying to get a balanced view of french newspapers. Last week I bought one I hadn't noticed before, and found it was spouting hatred similar to the UK's National Front. Which I hadn't realised before.

granjura Tue 08-Nov-16 14:36:09

as you know, many disagree- if you buy a daily paper, year after year, because you agree with the opinions and how they portray information, for instance on immigration - then you do somehow endorse what they say.

magpie123 Tue 08-Nov-16 14:50:48

rosesarered you would have to wear a hat and dirty raincoat to buy onegrin

POGS Tue 08-Nov-16 15:06:41

Arrogance.

' An insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people.'

Hmmmm

Welshwife Tue 08-Nov-16 15:35:05

I see today that the Council of Europe - not actually part of EU has commented about the press coverage of last week's court ruling and what newspapers are stirring up in UK
www.yahoo.com/news/council-europe-worried-uk-press-fury-brexit-ruling-190731275.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma

granjura Tue 08-Nov-16 15:43:53

I totally agree that a newspaper today should not be judged for what it supported in the past. But, as an example, POGS, would it have been right to be concerned about the Daily Mail supporting the Nazi party and Hitler right up to the war - and making light of the attacks on Jews all over Germany- saying they were isolated incidents perpetrated but a few nut jobs- and had nothing to do with the rise of Hitler? As said, just an example.