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Pre- teen girls seek Vagina surgery

(73 Posts)
Cherrytree59 Mon 03-Jul-17 16:07:00

The BBC online news reported that The Victoria Derbyshire show were discussing girls as young nine seeking vagina surgery.
They were requesting Labiaplasty procedures

According to Dr. Naomi Crouch (who chairs the British Society paediatric and Adolescent gynaecology )
She has yet to see young girl that requires such a procedure.

What are these little girls watching or reading??shocksad

Luckygirl Mon 03-Jul-17 21:19:37

It is so sad that any woman (let alone a young girl) should so detest how nature made them that they would subject themselves to such painful surgery for no reason at all. sad

Luckygirl Mon 03-Jul-17 21:24:11

I know a young doctor who was asked to do this recently - patient anaesthetised and the young doc was handed a pair of scissors to do a bit of a "trim" on the labia. She was a bit tentative and was exhorted to just chop them off. It is grim.

Rigby46 Mon 03-Jul-17 21:42:14

Was this in this country Lucky? Was it a private procedure? How did the doctor feel about it?

Nelliemoser Mon 03-Jul-17 22:58:59

This really appalls me. Will they be wanting full FGM? Now that will make the vulva look very neat and tidy.
I am truly horrified and angry about this and the issue has been around for quite some time now.

Not to mention that prepubescent girls vulvas will most likely look very different once they have reached puberty.

This is essentially FGM. It may not be as extreme as full FGM in the main parts of the world where this is practiced but that is what it is.
Surgeons should be banned from performing any such surgery unless there is a real clinical need.

Luckygirl Tue 04-Jul-17 08:08:10

Rigby....yes - no - unhappy.

Rigby46 Tue 04-Jul-17 08:18:03

Lucky on the NHS? I'm astounded, really really shocked. There is potential misconduct here by various people

Oriel Tue 04-Jul-17 09:35:17

Lucky. If what you were told is accurate then it should be reported.

Labiaplasty would normally be carried out using a laser or scalple and would take one to two hours in surgery. No way should a doctor be handed a pair of scissors and be told to 'chop them off'. Where was this carried out? In a doctors' surgery? If so it sounds like FGM. FGM is illegal in this country punishable by 5-14 years imprisonment. It is important that you report this incident to the police.

marionk Tue 04-Jul-17 10:36:41

Not sure I even knew what labia were at 9 - sheltered childhood maybe or just the marvellous opportunity to be a child whilst I was young!

Derek100 Tue 04-Jul-17 10:36:50

I think this stuff is wildly exaggerated and I suspect it would probably be illegal for a surgeon in the UK to perform such an operation on a child for cosmetic purposes. So my advice is don't get your labs in a flap grannies!

radicalnan Tue 04-Jul-17 10:56:42

What horrible vain people we are turning into..........I can't believe what people are prepared to do to themselves in aid of vanity...and to consider, on behalf of others.

At 9 my daughters were avidy discussing the tricky matter of slides over scrunchies ..........what are these girls watching on telly?

I saw a truly disgusting thing the other night people with shaven pubic areas, flaunting them for a date match I think, caught a glimpse and turned it off.........when did life become so base.

People happy to campaign against FGM, and then parading themselves on the box for approval of their intimate parts ..not so intimate after the programme of course. boobs jobs are almost a rite of passge like getting a handbag used to be.

Oriel Tue 04-Jul-17 10:58:13

Exactly Derek. That's why, if what Lucky says is true, the 'procedure' carried out by her doctor friend should be reported.

Nannarose Tue 04-Jul-17 11:07:21

I didn't see this show.
But I am aware that sometimes, because of the publicity & idiocy surrounding cosmetic surgery, there can be poor information.

Some other gransnetters who have been nurses or doctors, will, as I have, dealt with children who needed 'cosmetic' surgery for serious abnormalities (sometimes congenital, sometimes the result of an accident). Nothing to do with either modern obsessions or 'genital mutilation'.

I have nursed two such children. I also had a good friend who had to have breast surgery in her late teens (50 years ago) for a serious abnormality. She was deeply upset when many years later, another 'friend' referred to it as a 'boob job'which seemed to dismiss the difficult experience.

Whatever the reason, completely inappropriate to be discussing on TV, and to my mind, a safeguarding issue.

nipsmum Tue 04-Jul-17 11:08:16

Please don't believe everything you read or hear on TV. It's often anything for a story.

maddyone Tue 04-Jul-17 11:28:34

Yes nannarose, a safeguarding issue in my opinion too.

norose4 Tue 04-Jul-17 12:00:12

Agree entirely Radicalnan , so very sad that this is what it has come to, when you think about the suffragettes & the down trodden of yesteryear, let alone ,as has been mentioned those with serious health issues ?

Rigby46 Tue 04-Jul-17 12:37:35

What I've read it's young girls from 16/17 upwards who of course can give consent

gagsy Tue 04-Jul-17 12:51:05

So sad. People should thank their lucky stars they don't need an operation! They should think of other people instead of being obsessed with themselves! Bit of diversion therapy!

Lewlew Tue 04-Jul-17 12:57:26

"How much does it cost?

In the UK, a labiaplasty costs about £1,000-£3,000, plus the cost of any consultations or follow-up care that may not be included in the price.

Occasionally, a labiaplasty may be carried out on the NHS if the vaginal lips are obviously abnormal and causing the woman distress or harming her health. However, the NHS doesn't routinely provide this operation."

Lewlew Tue 04-Jul-17 12:58:11

"Who shouldn't have it?

A labiaplasty should not be performed on girls younger than 18. Their labia may continue to grow and develop well beyond puberty, into early adulthood."

pollyperkins Tue 04-Jul-17 13:26:16

I read about this in the paper I think (or was it online?) -however it implied that the girls had been seeing pornogaphic photos on their phones, and felt they were 'abnormal' as they didnt look like these images. I assume they used mirrors to check themselves!?
I think it's horrifying. And mothers should not be encouraging this.

petra Tue 04-Jul-17 13:27:15

I think you might be referring to a 'vajazzle'. I can assure you that no one on Towie is capable of carrying out a surgical procedure.

pollyperkins Tue 04-Jul-17 13:29:01

And according to the article I read, many doctors are explaining that that they are not abnormal as we all look different in that area (as well as facially for example.). The 'doctors' who are willing to operate (presumably for money?) should be ashamed.

ExaltedWombat Tue 04-Jul-17 13:46:28

I wouldn't worry too much about a bit of sensationalism on tv. Of course, if it's like this...

Corncob Tue 04-Jul-17 14:41:33

What is the world coming to.At nine years old I did not even Know I had one

norose4 Tue 04-Jul-17 14:52:32

Ohhhh Exalted?