Should I say something about their gorgeous new puppy?

I wouldn't advise saying that you had spoken to other neighbours about it, because she may think you are trying to cause troubles for her.......I would say 'I love Stanley but he is such an early riser and I don't surface until 7/8/ whenever......she either takes the point or not after that.

My Ernie is the world's biggest git and I have to bring him in if he starts......dogs, can't live with them, can't live without them.....but Ern never mentions my weight is loyal and to date had not even looked at another woman.

We had a former neighbour 4 doors down who owned a nightclub. He'd come home at 3-4am and let their dog out. Same thing... barked and barked as the owner went to bed and would fall fast asleep, until someone else in his house who got up about 7am let the poor thing back in.

The neighbours got together and sent him a nice friendly note, but he just carried on leaving the dog out. Eventually through the council, something got done. This was by one of the neighbours. I don't know how they achieved it, but it worked!

When we had dogs (cavaliers) I couldn't stand them barking so I have low tolerance for anyone else's dog barking! Thus, I was mortified to learn that my dog had been keeping a neighbour awake at night. I was baffled by it until I discovered that my dog was sticking her head out of the cat flap at night and I couldnt hear a thing because my bedroom is in the farthest point diagonally opposite from the utility room.

Which is no help to Phoenix at all in solving her problem! I am on the side of politely telling the neighbours that you are being disturbed.

Yes, they are, Christinefrance. Mother and daughter. DD's JR (the one who kept nipping through the catflap) is Peggy's brother, Gloster. The other boy went to a lovely little girl in the next village who adores him.

They're noisy when excited but soon calm down if ignored.

There are two 5 oclocks in a day - who knew??

A neighbour once came and told (very politely and nicely) that my dog was causing a nuisance to the neighbours because of her barking (she was barking at the dog next door who was barking back)

I felt so awful that all the neighbours were talking about it (whether they were or not) that I stood guard over my dog every time she went in the garden telling her to be quiet or dragging her back inside.

Yes you should say something, very nicely and politely. Otherwise they won't realise the extent of the problem.
Good luck!

As a puppy owner, we've tried to make sure we don't let puppy get into bad habits.

How about, buy a small cute toy for the puppy and stick it somewhere near the front door. Next time you see them out with dog 'Oh I have a little present for pup. I couldn't resist it. It's in the house. Can I bring it round later? ' Take it round. Make massive fuss of dog. After a few minutes 'He's so gorgeous, but that 5am barking must be getting on your nerves. You'd better grow out of it, pooch or there'll be no more little presents for you' or 'I sleep so badly, old age being awake at stupid o'clock ...'.

Good luck

Rigby wish we had your! dog warden here....we have a mixture of 8 dogs surround us...a Jack russel who is let out before 6-30 am then on n off during the day...2 massive big newfoundland type who fight n growl through next doors fence (a dalmation and a beadle) then 2 doors down a sreaming! and I mean screaming! spaniel that makes it sound like you have just stamped on its paws! then a cairn terrier..who yaps yaps yaps for hours (yes myself and others have been round over the yrs but nothing changes_) then another spaniel that isn't as bad..

I have started recording the cairn on my phone as that is the most persistent one..when I'm watching emmerdale and record the dog barking you can here it. I am in the lounge then through the conservatory and the dog lives in the next avenue.

Love the cat flap story merlotgran JRs are such characters, ours is certainly in charge of everything.
He is a barker though and always at a crucial point in film or phone call. I can well understand how annoying early morning barking must be.

biker that's terrible - your council doesn't have one? I just don't what I'd do - people can be so absolutely selfish and thoughtless. Have you a decent local councillor who could help?

Cockerpoos are lovely, my DS has one and he has been to puppy training from day one. I have never heard him bark, although he is quite boisterous. Perhaps that is the answer, or maybe we have just been lucky. 5am could be the exception

yes Rigby we do have a dog warden but cut backs cut backs etc etc .. if you ring the council they are just not interested tell you to send off for this "notepad" so that you can keep a record of times dates etc etc then after a month submit it!! and hey ho! red tape red tape...etc.. I have invested in packs of earplugs...but then I may miss my alarm for work lol...wuff wuff onwards n upwards.

Our Jack Russell goes out back on a lead after 9 pm and before 8 am. If he barks he gets brought in between those hours.

We had trouble with a neighbour reporting us for shutting the dog out the back with no water all day. Police came. Whilst here they watched the dog pop in the cat flap. Go to the cats water bowl, go back out and sit on the grass.

We then had a letter from the dog warden saying they had received a complaint that the dog barked constantly. Son home one afternoon caught the complainer hammering on our back gate and yelling at the dog, making him bark.

Might be worth putting some measures in place to help keep barking down, and setting a time during which it is acceptable for him to bark. After all its what dogs do to protect their homes.

Could you find out if there are obedience classes for dogs nearby and suggest that? Are they trying to train their dog in other ways? A barking dog is annoying at any time but not to be tolerated at early hours. Maybe they have no idea how to correct him.
Report them to the Noise Abarement Sociery (if it still exists). ?

maybe leaflets with a list of Dog training telephone number on through their letter boxes will be a subtle hint..but I doubt it its been like this for years..just a case of putting up with it..(earplugs at the ready) some neighbours are just pure bred ignorant..and think their king of the castle no thought for others..

I love dogs but I don't think dog owners are always aware of how disruptive their pets can be, taking the puppy out on a lead should stop the barking, say what a lovely dog it but suggest they use the lead to stop the barking, eventuallybthey may be able to let the dog out without the lead

I think it is very inconsiderate of your neighbours and certainly not fair on you.
They should take it for a walk away from the house. I wouldn't put up with it and would have a word sooner than later. Hope you get it sorted out amicably.

Dear Phoenix
I'm always up at 5 or thereabouts .... we morning people know it's the most beautiful part of the day. If more people realised this then less anti depression/ stress pills would be popped. Although I admit letting dogs out to bark it's a no-no. I sometimes look after a friends two dogs and they need to 'go' early but I just point a very stern finger at them the first growl they attempt and it shuts them up.Dogs need to know who's boss that's all.I don't sleep well at all... 4/5 hours and that's always broken up in small snatches. But I'm still out of bed by 5.30 at latest... and swimming at 7.00! Really all you layabeds...try it for a week. It's a glorious time to be about.Alas my husband isn't a morning person , he's sluggish , bored and dozing all day. Drives me up the wall!!