Gay Pride ad a new 'equality gap'?

Whilst people think as Jen does - a homosexuals family should be proud of them there cannot be equality, I am not proud or ashamed one of my nieces is lesbian, neither am I proud or ashamed her sister is heterosexual. They are my nieces, that's it.

Good post eddiecat78 . Completely agree.

I am beyond mad regards the whole sexuality/religion thing. What you are in the privacy of your own home is up to you. It's nobody else's business. I do however take great exception to having someone's sexuality or religious beliefs rammed down my throat. I was in the city centre a few years ago when there was a pride march on. I was beyond disgusted. I saw men walking around with incredibly lewd sexual language on their t-shirts. I saw another group of men wearing nothing more than a leather triangle on their groin with their buttocks exposed. On any other day if they walked the streets like this they would be arrested on public decency offences. Workplaces are tripping over themselves to offer support groups for LGBT. I don't care what your orientation is. If you can do the job you were employed to do then great if not you shouldn't be there. Whether you are straight or gay has no bearing on this. How come workplaces don't offer support groups for single parents, widowed people, people with physical disabilities etc...We don't see marches celebrating straight married or co-habiting couples. It's time we all learned to live and let live and keep our sexual preferences to ourselves.

Anniebach I love my brother and am proud of the legal career he's had. He happens to be gay which is just one of so many things I can say about him.

Anniebach, an admission that you were wrong for saying that gays were not sent to institutions in the 60s would have been better, but we can't have everything, can we?

Gay Pride exists because gays were made to feel ashamed, and still are by 40% of the population.

Glammygranny, did you never walk down the street holding your husband's hand? I used to all the time. I can remember when we lived in York being complimented on the fact that we still held hands after being married for so long.

Now imagine what comments we would have got if we had been two women, or two men.
In your world it shouldn't happen.

I assume you weren't in Hull when this took place.

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Whilst people think as Jen does - a homosexuals family should be proud of them there cannot be equality, I am not proud or ashamed one of my nieces is lesbian, neither am I proud or ashamed her sister is heterosexual. They are my nieces, that's it.

Totally agree Anniebach people are just people and no-one should have a tag attached to them.

ab I don't understand your last comment

"a homosexuals family should be proud of them there cannot be equality, I am not proud or ashamed one of my nieces is lesbian, neither am I proud or ashamed her sister is heterosexual".

Your attitude to your neices is fine, but what does "there cannot be equality" mean?

How strange.
A homosexual's family should be as proud of them as they are of all other members of their family.
Homosexuality has had to be hidden away for far too long.

I mean being proud of someone being gay sets that person apart

I knew exactly what you meant Anniebach and totally agree with you. Actually saying that you are proud of someone being gay or because they are gay is setting them apart from everyone else. Surely we are proud of someones achievement not of their sexuality.

What are you supposed to do?

Introduce people as "this is my straight niece"
"this is my gay niece of whom I am very proud"

Glammygranny, did you never walk down the street holding your husband's hand?
I doubt that Glammygranny's husband was wearing a leather thong and nothing else at the time if she did.

I would object to seeing that, just as I would object to seeing people of any kind walking practically naked through the streets of Blackpool on a hen weekend, more fool them, topless women on a January night, skirts round their waists as they lie in the gutter, men urinating , dropping their trousers and mooning etc.

gillybob
Presumably most people would say ' this is my niece, she's Bob and Mary's daughter' when introducing either of them
like most people would.

(if, of course their parents are called Bob and Mary!)

left out if
and their parents could be Mary and Mary
or Bob and Bob

There's a difference dj between a family hiding homosexuality away by let's say refusing to acknowledge and/or accept it and setting a family member apart by emphasising their homosexuality by being proud of it.

We are proud of someone because of who they are and what they do. We shouldn't be proud or ashamed of someone because of their sexual preference.

durhamjen I think you may have missed my point. I was referring to the fact that the pair of them were 'wearing' scraps of cloth smaller than my dog's bandana with their bottoms in full view. Yes hubby and I have been known to walk down the street holding hands but I don't think the world is quite ready for the sight of him in a leather thong. I see lots of same sex couples walking around holding hands and it never crosses my mind to take to social media to complain about such things.

I think, even now, I would be proud of my daughter for 'coming out' if she was lesbian (not for being lesbian per se), even though times have changed.

Yes you would assume so Jalima.

It seems that some people would prefer "this is my niece. She is gay... and I am so proud, she's Bob and Mary's daughter"

As I said in the same quote, his family should not have to hide away the fact that he was gay.
Obviously some of you still think they should.
40% of the population in one survey I saw.

That's why Gay Pride is still necessary.

I agree we shouldn't be proud or ashamed of someone's sexuality, but we might be proud of the way they handle the prejudice and hostility they experience. I was proud of the way my brother dealt with the disabilities inflicted on him as a result of a homophobic attack. But he wanted people to know why he had been attacked so it was important to him that his sexuality was public.

How do you manage to misread posts so thoroughly djen?

I grew up in a town that had a number of what were previously known as "mental asylums", now all closed and redeveloped as housing. I knew there were ex servicemen who'd been in these places for years and who had ongoing problems due to shell shock, how bad that must of been for them, this was the sixties so possibly some of the older men were WW1 veterans. It was only of late that I became aware that people could be incarcerated and institutionalised for years for being deemed a "loose cannon" so that would have covered a whole gamut of what are now everyday "norms", homosexuality and young girls becoming pregnant outside marriage. I would recommend "The Disappearing Act of Esme Lennox" by Maggie O'Farrell for a greater insight into that.

Turning to "Gay Pride" marches, I don't like being confronted by anyone in a state of undress in public, whatever their sexual orientation, I think as glammynanny described, the shock tactics that are sometimes associated with the dress or lack of it with such celebrations will put some people off. Although gay people holding hands or kissing doesn't bother me one iota. In a similar vein, I remember passing through Malaga airport a few years ago with what seemed to be umpteen stag and hen parties, British of course many loud and pissed with it all hanging out. Sorry quite possibly that makes me an old fart, but good god whatever happened to decorum not everyone wants it "in their face"

"What you are in the privacy of your own home is up to you."

Remind me where Ketton-Ceber's home was.
Remind me where these people were, who refused to wear a badge acknowledging that he was gay.

How does that make any sense at all?

He's obviously not still doing it now...