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Theresa May & Trump, why the negative slant ?

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Bridgeit Fri 13-Jul-18 18:22:48

Am I alone in thinking that Reporters & Journalists seemed hell bent on reporting the meeting of DT & TM in a particularly negative way,despite the fact that both of them were obviously making positive efforts & remarks in a civilised & mature manner?

NfkDumpling Mon 16-Jul-18 08:18:33

I wonder on what grounds Mr Trump said we could sue the EU? False accounting? No accounting? Letting in countries which didn’t meet the criteria? And what court? I’d love to know more.

lemongrove Mon 16-Jul-18 08:15:49

mcem it doesn’t sit well to interrogate posters as to their
Knowledge , political or otherwise.
Simply because Kim said we should put Britain first as an idea, it doesn’t mean we should hold the views of an extreme right wing organisation ourselves.

lemongrove Mon 16-Jul-18 08:10:30

Let’s not get over excited about either the posts by montymops or jimbow because there is truth in their comments.Perhaps re-read them.
Putting Britain first ( not the right wing extreme group) is a good idea, and the UK and the US have much to be proud of.
Nobody is saying that either country is perfect (are any?) but
Compared to many ,many countries are beacons of fairness and tolerance, and we shouldn’t forget that.

maddy629 Sun 15-Jul-18 23:01:03

oldbatty What's good about Trump, you ask, The answer is nothing, nothing at all.

mcem Sun 15-Jul-18 22:15:58

kim thanks for your honesty.
I wonder how you voted in the referendum and how well informed you felt about the many complicated issues involved.
Were you really not aware that Jo Cox MP was brutally murdered by a man who was proud to support Britain First?

oldbatty Sun 15-Jul-18 21:19:16

America and the UK stand for all that is good and great.

Oh dear.

Kim19 Sun 15-Jul-18 21:12:48

I do now OM. Didn't before. Thank you. I'm not much of an in depth political animal. If you take the content of my previous literally I would be grateful.

OldMeg Sun 15-Jul-18 20:39:29

kim have you any idea what Britain First stands for?

mcem Sun 15-Jul-18 20:31:52

kim19 are you seriously saying you'd like to see MPs lining up to support 'Britain First'?

MawBroon Sun 15-Jul-18 20:15:21

You do indeed montymops unsubstantiated prejudice speaks for itself.

varian Sun 15-Jul-18 19:27:48

It came out earlier this year that the Home Office under Theresa May had held back numerous government reports that detailed the positive impacts that immigration has upon Britain. Vince Cable commented on the information suppression recently, stating that, “When I was Business Secretary there were up to nine studies that we looked at that took in all the academic evidence….. It showed that immigration had very little impact on wages or employment. But this was suppressed by the Home Office under Theresa May, because the results were inconvenient. I remember it vividly. Overwhelmingly it has been the case that overseas workers have been complementary rather than competitive to British workers.”

The reports detailed that there had been no impact upon jobs or wages as a result of immigration, as well as numerous ways in which Britain could reduce the number of EU nationals coming to work in the UK, including a two-year residency restriction for unskilled workers and restrictions on bringing family members over.

Similar accusations have been leveled at David Cameron and his true motivations behind calling the referendum, that the Conservatives were vehemently opposed to Tax Evasion regulations that were being proposed by the EU. Back in 2015, Britain rejected plans announced by Brussels to combat “industrial-scale tax avoidance by the world’s biggest multinationals”. Britain had built a corporate tax haven for multinationals that included slashing corporation tax from 28% to 20%, new favorable tax regimes for multinationals with offshore financing subsidiaries, and tax breaks for patent-owning companies. As a result, Britain saw a number of large corporations like Aon, Fiat Industrial, and Starbucks’s European operations, set up headquarters in the UK with a small number of staff in order to take advantage of these tax laws.

medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-tax-evasion-regulation-the-reason-for-the-brexit-referendum-980ba88a8077

montymops Sun 15-Jul-18 19:09:32

Couldn’t agree more Jimbowl5 - no - I don’t want to elaborate on my message - if someone makes assumptions and demonstrates bigotry - they know who they are.

Elegran Sun 15-Jul-18 18:59:52

We had crime in cities already.

Jimbow15 Sun 15-Jul-18 18:53:55

Why don't people spend their time criticizing the real evil dictators in this rotten world like Syria and Iran.
America and the UK stand for all that is good and great.
Leave Donald and Theresa alone. We have now crime ridden cities due to mass immigration and that is a fact and the same in Germany

MawBroon Sun 15-Jul-18 18:15:33

Would you care to elaborate on that montymops? confused too

varian Sun 15-Jul-18 17:52:24

Having read through this thread, I am not sure which posters you are accusing of bigotry, montymops

montymops Sun 15-Jul-18 17:06:57

What extraordinary and bigoted assumptions some people make about others on this site!

Sheilasue Sun 15-Jul-18 17:01:54

As they say in America ‘he’s a bum’

Deedaa Sun 15-Jul-18 16:51:38

I heard one of Trump's advisors saying that the President is promoting a Christian/ Judean society which seems to suggest that the rest of the world doesn't really matter. Of course we know that he thinks the rest of the world is s**t hole countries full of terrorists, but once you start using religion to jusify racism you are on the slippery slope.

Elegran Sun 15-Jul-18 16:44:34

That does seem a weakness of the US political system - the POTUS is elected from absolutely anywhere. He/she may be a great guy in their own field, but not have the least notion of the mechanics and nuances of governing an enormous and diverse country or of interacting with his/her equivalents from other countries. Add to that the incomprehensible electoral college voting system and the way that "money talks shouts"

patriciageegee Sun 15-Jul-18 16:35:47

If he's not a politician with all that implies good and bad but hopefully at least time served what the eff is he doing in politics?

MawBroon Sun 15-Jul-18 16:33:48

I do sometimes wonder what century some people are living in when I read some comments hmm

trisher Sun 15-Jul-18 16:30:17

Of course they shouldn't be there Maw and when proper law and order is established, women return to their true places in the kitchen and bed, immigrants are locked up or deported, disabled people are got rid of and Trump brings order to the Western world, only official demonstrations will be permitted. By groups wearing the right uniforms (oh hang on didn't someone else try this?)

MawBroon Sun 15-Jul-18 16:20:59

why were these protesters on Friday not at work by the way?

Goodness!
Not everybody works 9-5 five days a week you know. Some people work flexitime or shifts, some may have taken a day of their annual leave, some might be self-employed, some might work from home, some might not be in work, (OMG-surely not on benefits?)
Quite a few I know are retired. Why on earth question this, are you easily shocked? Do you think they were not entitled to be there?

montymops Sun 15-Jul-18 16:08:40

It’s true that the press and media like to report negatively on everything. I read the transcript of the Sun interview and noted some deliberate press exaggerations to fit their own view. I’m not sure that Trump is all those things he is accused of. I think he is rather ignorant of world affairs and playing politics - as are many Americans- for instance - up until recently, only 10% of them had passports. May he also have in mind the devastating loss of life on 9/11? Politics is a game and one that I am getting increasingly tired of in this country. Trump is a businessman not a politician in any way. What you see is what you get - like it or lump it - and I think the balloon in London was disrespectful actually- not really surprising that he hit back! Why were all those protesters on Friday not at work by the way?