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Lack of vegetables.

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NanKate Wed 05-Sep-18 16:53:42

We are off on a few days holiday on Friday and we asked our lovely lady at the B and B for some local pub recommendations. I then looked up the pubs and reported back to DH that the menus looked good. His immediate reply was 'Do they do vegetables'? He gets so upset (and I do a bit) when perhaps you get some nice pie and chips but no veg.

Sunday lunch seems to be the only time we get a good variety of veg.

Is this just something that happens in southern pubs or do you experience it too?

merlotgran Wed 05-Sep-18 18:18:48

It happens East Anglia as well. An awful lot of pub lunches are adorned by a large piece of broccoli which DH hates.

We had a lovely meal in a pub last week and I ordered a side dish of sautéed courgettes. It was massive and nobody else wanted to help me out so in future I will check on the size of individual sides.

Grammaretto Wed 05-Sep-18 18:31:11

In Scotland it seems customary to treat vegetables as an afterthought or a small garnish. As a vegetarian, I find this a real problem.

It doesn't happen in proper restaurants but in cheaper cafes or pubs, I'm hard pressed to find many vegetables.
I chose macaroni cheese recently as it was the only veggie choice. It was massive and served with chips and a lettuce leaf and a piece of tomato. The ketchup made it edible.

Framilode Wed 05-Sep-18 18:34:32

When we lived in Spain vegetables were hardly ever served in bars or restaurants. Apparently they are a sign of poverty!

The markets and supermarkets were always full of glorious vegetables. Strange.

Fennel Wed 05-Sep-18 18:34:37

I must be a pessimist - I thought this thread was going to be about shortage of veg. in the shops.
It's put down to the very hot summer, lack of rain.

glammanana Wed 05-Sep-18 18:43:34

Framilode How I loved going to the local markets a couple of times a week when living there,everything picked that morning and such choice.
Here you are lucky to get a few peas & cauliflower and thats at a push.

Blinko Wed 05-Sep-18 19:16:04

Canada is the same: wonderful displays of vegetables in the markets but hardly any served in restaurants. I do like me veg.

GrandmaMoira Wed 05-Sep-18 19:38:15

I do agree about the lack of veg when eating out. When at home I have half my plate with veg.

Greenfinch Wed 05-Sep-18 19:45:56

I love Toby Carvery.I have the meat free option and can fill my plate with vegetables at a reasonable price.There is a good variety and they are generally hot and cooked perfectly. You actually get a bigger plate if you don't have meat.

Iam64 Wed 05-Sep-18 20:18:43

I agree that restaurants rarely serve a decent portion or variety of vegetables. Many now don't served vegetables with a main course unless you order them as 'sides', of course at extra cost.
Its still a rarity to find anywhere that sells a decent salad. The UK seems to be stuck in a place where a bit of lettuce, tomato and cucumber constitutes a salad.

Greyduster Wed 05-Sep-18 20:49:43

We go to a pub where they do a beautiful salad garnish of both fruit and salad veg. Trouble is, they serve it with everything. What doesn't come with salad comes with peas! If you don’t like peas you’ve had it!

merlotgran Wed 05-Sep-18 21:12:44

During the nineties we had our own very successful pub and restaurant. Our weekend carvery offered a choice of at least six fresh vegetables and we offered the same choice for bar meals.

We were lucky enough to be situated on a busy route to the coast and opposite a farm shop. If we ran out mid service one of the kitchen staff would often be seen dodging the traffic to nip across the road for a top up.

I get really cross when we go out for a meal that I can cost out in my head and all we are offered by way of fresh veg is a lump of broccoli (or Ecod tree as DH calls it) or a tablespoon of peas.

M0nica Wed 05-Sep-18 21:57:57

In France, where we are at present, the better the restaurant the fewer the vegetables. I suspect for the same reason Framilode mentioned for Spain.

In Britain I think it is because so many people, if given them do not eat them, so eateries do not serve them to reduce the waste

Jalima1108 Wed 05-Sep-18 22:00:32

I like vegetables.
I like salad too, but not with a hot meal.

MissAdventure Wed 05-Sep-18 22:04:49

The nicest salad I've had for ages was with a chicken kebab takeaway blush
A whole box full of finely shredded lettuce, and other leafy things. Lovely!
I think there may have been beetroot in a sort of garlic vinegar in there.

Jalima1108 Wed 05-Sep-18 22:06:16

I should have said unless I eat steak and salad if I'm on a diet!

MiniMoon Thu 06-Sep-18 00:29:47

In not advertising, but DH and I do go to a Toby Carvery now and then. They always have about six different vegetables. Last time we were at our closest Toby they had no roast potatoes, as there was a problem in the kitchen. The veg choice was good though, carrots, peas, cauliflower, broccoli, spinach (which is an unusual find).
We went to a pub in London for dinner at the weekend. I had scamp and chips with a spoonful of rather wizened peas.

Hilltopgran Thu 06-Sep-18 00:40:37

We ate at our favorite pub at the weekend, they always bring a choice of three extra veg to the table to accompany all the meals, most places
round here offer veg as an extra option.

Our SIL is Spanish, and when eating with his family and out in Madrid, veg were served as a separate course, they do no tunderstand how we can mix everything on one plate!

Nanagem Thu 06-Sep-18 06:36:41

We all love our veg on this house, we went to the local pub for Sunday lunch when it restarted it’s sunday roasts for the winter, two very thin slices of beef, 3 Yorkshire puds, 8 roast potatoes 4 tiny sticks of carrot and a spoonful of peas, not impressed

absent Thu 06-Sep-18 06:40:55

Why not just order some vegetables or a salad to go with whatever is your main course – unless vegetables are included on the menu? It's really not going to cost much more. That way, the restaurant or pub can accommodate both the patrons who like something and chips and those who like some greens as well.

absent Thu 06-Sep-18 06:44:01

Nanagem Why didn't you simply ask for some more carrot sticks and peas? The kitchen staff would probably have cheered. (It is so depressing cooking for people who are picky about eating vegetables that you have prepared and cooked to be at their best.)

NanKate Thu 06-Sep-18 06:48:54

We always order veg if they are on the menu but often they aren’t. I once had a meat meal and instead of veg there was pasta, very odd.

harrigran Thu 06-Sep-18 07:44:10

The upmarket restaurants, we eat in, charge extra for vegetables but the local cafes and pubs always bring a big bowl of mixed vegetables.

labazs Thu 06-Sep-18 07:56:42

slightly off course but being vegetarian i get fed up of scampi and chips lasagne vegi style and macaroni cheese as the alternatives to meat dishes. you pick up a huge menu and find usually one or two of the above dishes shoved at the end and i agree usually with some tired looking peas soggy carrots or a lump of trees or broccoli the trees are what the nursery calls them and its stuck

Craicon Thu 06-Sep-18 08:58:12

Ah, we’re really lucky living here in West Cork. It really is the foodie capital of Ireland. The Irish love their meat and veg.

We have a farmers market in each of the main towns every week throughout the year (ours is on a Saturday) and during the summer months, it more than doubles in size with the number of stalls selling produce plus various local musicians (inc. children) playing too.

Our West Cork Food Festival starts tomorrow and runs until 16th September. There’s always a good influx of retired Brits holidaying here during the festival.