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America’s Purity Programme !

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Bridgeit Thu 18-Oct-18 17:00:50

A teenage girl from Louisiana, signed a contract to pledge abstinence to her father , ( until married ) apparently they have a Purity Ball called America’s Purity Ball.
Seems a bit creepy & controlling to me .
I am all for caring Dads, but this just doesn’t seem right to me.

Bridgeit Fri 19-Oct-18 15:15:30

Thanks for the link Emilymarie, very interesting & informative

sandelf Fri 19-Oct-18 15:27:29

Eugh - very peculiar. Common sense, self respect, read 'The Rules' - very good on how not to get hurt. But stay a virgin 'for your father' OMG no.

Grandma70s Fri 19-Oct-18 16:17:12

I find it very creepy, and the use of the word ‘purity’ is distasteful. All based on the mediaeval concept that sex is bad. I thought we’d got past that.

willa45 Fri 19-Oct-18 16:24:39

Just to be clear.....Nothing wrong with girls/women making a very personal choice to be abstinent until marriage. The operative word however, is 'Personal' which means no third parties can be included, least of all their fathers.

inishowen Fri 19-Oct-18 17:22:17

I think it's creepy. A father should not have anything to do with when his daughter has sex, whether she's married or not. Too much control by men.

Chewbacca Fri 19-Oct-18 17:32:05

It's a modern day, verbal chastity belt. And just as repressive as the original version.

BlueBelle Fri 19-Oct-18 18:19:26

Chucky you have such a rainbow unrealistic outlook on this
^ these girls are not being forced into this type of thing they are agreeing to it^ But how do you know that? They may be brainwashed, they may be controlled, Why is it the father that has to be ‘obeyed’ no mention of the mother’s role in these girls’ moral upbringing
Is promiscuity really any worse than any other generation?

SueDoku Fri 19-Oct-18 19:09:31

Go into YouTube and enter 'Fascinating Aida & I'm Saving Myself' - I think you'll like it... gringringrin

Izabella Fri 19-Oct-18 19:28:54

I have female relatives in TX and can confirm that choice is not always an option for some girls in this matter. Pastors as well as fathers have great influence and I have been horrified on two separate occasions with this issue.

GabriellaG Fri 19-Oct-18 21:36:27

Yanks are known for being kooky and sometimes downright weird.

GabriellaG Fri 19-Oct-18 21:39:36

There was a 'thang' at one time, where girls who pledged to keep their virginity, wore a particular ring.
It was very popular...for a while, almost like a cult.

GabriellaG Fri 19-Oct-18 21:44:38

Just cruised through some other replies and I see that Tillybelle has heard about the ring 'thang' too.

muffinthemoo Fri 19-Oct-18 22:12:52

If my dad had urged me to enter into a contractual arrangement with him governing the use of my vagina I would have phoned Childline.

If he had then tried to take me to some pseudo romantic ball on a date, I would have phoned them again.

The entire thing is depraved. There is a world of difference between educating your children to think maturely and respectfully about sex and relationships, and acting like their virginity is your personal possession, to be disposed of in accordance with your wishes.

Pretty much the sum total of my father’s sexual guidance to me was “don’t get AIDS, don’t get hepatitis C, try not to get pregnant but if you do we’ll look after your baby”

GreenGran78 Fri 19-Oct-18 23:44:49

Muffinthemoo. That's a lot more guidance than I got, which was absolutely none. My parents would have killed me if I had got pregnant though. Luckily my ignorance, being painfully shy around boys, and going to a girl's school, protected me. I was finally enlightened by more knowledgeable friends. That shocked me so much that it kept me safe for a lot longer, as the thought of doing 'that' put me right off boys until I was 19!
I did eventually marry, have four children, and adopt another whose poor mum wasn't as lucky as I was at avoiding early pregnancy.

Dockersgirl1955 Sat 20-Oct-18 00:38:49

I am sorry readers but this whole agreeing not to have sex till your married I don't believe in being promiscuous but this what I'm reading is completely ridiculous and outdated feelings should come naturally

Dolcelatte Sat 20-Oct-18 07:35:18

It sounds like something out of 'The Handmaid's Tale', absolutely terrifying.

Writerbird Sat 20-Oct-18 09:40:25

It seems to me Bridgeit that they are trying to go back to the days when girls were owned and controlled by their fathers until that role was passed to the husband the father had chosen for them. That is obsessive, extreme and very frightening in my view. And yes, it does open the way to extreme creepiness.

Bridgeit Sat 20-Oct-18 16:22:48

Yes I agree Dolcelatte & Writerbird, very creepy.

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Oct-18 17:35:06

I think any father so invested in his daughters virginity is quite creepy.

And what about the lads? Do they sign this pledge or is ok for them to sow wild oats with ‘bad girls’

Rainwashed Sat 20-Oct-18 18:45:22

I would like to know (a) what happens if they don't keep the pledge? Are they punished in some way, if so that's creepy! Are girls really that influenced by not being able to attend a ball ?

(b)Unless some sort of surveillance device is used (creepy) how does anyone know they haven't kept the pledge, unless the male involved spills the beans how hypocritical is that?

notanan2 Sat 20-Oct-18 19:23:36

They are pledging their virginity to their fathers until he hands her over to a husband.

GROSS.

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Oct-18 19:48:50

Gross indeed

Jalima1108 Sat 20-Oct-18 19:58:02

There was a movement that wore a ring (I forget which finger) declaring chastity before marriage so that students knew each other's beliefs on the matter.

I remember that Tillybelle and I think it is still happening. It's called The Silver Ring Thing and was founded by an evangelical Christian (male). But I think they pledge to themselves, not to their fathers.

I agree Writerbird

Jalima1108 Sat 20-Oct-18 19:59:33

The Silver Ring Thing is not just aimed at girls and young women either - it is for boys and young men too.
They must not 'fornicate'.

Mycatisahacker Sat 20-Oct-18 20:25:25

Well the silver ring thing sounds ok to me if it’s what the individual wants. Boy or girl It’s just the pledging to daddy that sounds creepy.

Nowt wrong with teenagers choosing chastity if that’s their individual choice. Good for them