No more Snowmen on CBeebies ?

At least some little girls may feel they count as much as boys! ☃️ only male snowpeople emoticons but ?‍♂️?‍♀️?‍♂️?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♀️???‍♂️?‍♀️

Flip this over and think about how often we use the word person when we actually mean man or woman and the gender is clear.

Alan is a very kind person.
Anne is a very private person.

Language is flexible.

Yes, but we probably wouldn’t say “Who is that person?”. We would say”Who are those people?”.

It’s probably too complicated to go into!

Love It Jalima ?

SueDonim - thank you so much for the how to offend everyone by building a snowman tale. Very funny but oh so spookily familiar.

It does highlight, dare I say it, the snowflakery of certain individuals who seem to seek out offence. We ought to start getting offended by those screaming "I am offended!" at every turn. It's reaching ridiculous levels. We'll be monitored by the thought and speech police soon.

Let's nip the silliness in the bud.

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oh that made me smile first thing in the morning SueDonin ,certainly gives you food for thought though ,what is our country coming to?, so sad when our laws give in to a few small minded people ,perhaps in the future ,the words men and women will be abolished and we ,instead must always be called "a people person "

I might not be personally offended by some use of language that I feel is inappropriate so I would still challenge it. I have changed some words in children's rhymes to open them up for all children, e.g Five little men in a flying saucer to Five astronauts in a flying saucer. I am no " snowflake" nor " politically correct" unless that means promoting better equity anfd fairness ..then I am!

Yes, language is very powerful.

It is also a means of self-expression, self being the operative word. Self-expression does not have to be thoughtless.

However, we should not all have to be placed in/accept the same verbal straight-jacket.

Otherwise "1984" methinks? - (the novel, not the year obviously).

On a lighter note - do we now have to change song lyrics as well as nursery rhymes?

"Person In Red", "Person Mia"...

tiggers self expression can be thoughtful. I expect a lot of thought goes into the speeches given by political / religious/ individuals who want to incite disruption and division in society as much as goes into speeches givenn by those that want to encourage harmony, unity and peace.

PECS - yes, speeches.

I was referring to self-expression in one's everyday use of language.

Language is an ever-evolving entity - look no further than new words coming into common usage e.g. armography (courtesy of Craig Revell Horwood) and, as mentioned today on TV, "single-use" as in single use plastic.

What I do object to is being coerced/forced by the minority to accept any PC which is over-the-top!

On that note, I shall be building a snowman in the garden with my grandchildren this Winter (snow/white flakes/angels' feathers - call it what you will - permitting).

If we get enough snow we will build a snow couple..yet to decide their gender..will leave it up to the DGC! ?

More PC Song lyrics -

"Frosty The Snowperson"...

Let sanity.prevail.

I wonder if Raymond Briggs's The Snowman will be expunged from out televisions. Maybe children will be visited by Parent Christmas instead of Father Christmas.

Meh

I made snow cats.. snow babies... snow daddies... snow mummies..

They ARE snow people / snow pets whats the big deal?

I wonder if Raymond Briggs's The Snowman will be expunged from out televisions. Maybe children will be visited by Parent Christmas instead of Father Christmas.

None of that is happening.
Just because some people CHOSE to say snowperson, doesn't mean you can't say snowman!

Look:
SNOWMAN SNOWMAN SNOWMAN
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.....oooo here I still am! Not arrested for saying snowman!

You remain as free to say snowman as those prefer snowperson/snoworganism are to call them what they prefer

But for how long Notanan2 ?⛄️

Only until Christmas Brid

And not before 1st December, Lemon!

Maybe I should have included a in my previous post.

Of course you won't change Frosty the Snowman. Frosty the character was, in this case a snow*man*! That is the PI stance.

It is not about denying men/women exist it is about not assuming that the default position is male!

PECS may I say you are talking good sense. Mountains and molehills come to mind.

I despair for all peoplekind.

I will continue to use the word snowman and if others want to use the word snow person that's up to them because I wouldn't impose my view , I just wish that was reciprocated.

The point is we have a ' choice ' but as things are going our 'choice ' is being eroded time and time again and on some very trite occasions.

The reason why political correctness is used as a term is because of some of the the inane decisions and scenarios that causes so much angst to some are petty minded to others. The concern some hold and wanting to ensure the words ' man / woman ' are obliterated / not used as though they are some sort of derogatory / incorrect descriptions it is not my idea of a sensible way of proving a point .

No doubt the time will come when ' snow people ' will be challenged and we will have to call a snow people ' a character of non human form made out of snow ' because somebody will find it derogatory to associate a ' snow person ' as a human .

Pecs , how do you know he is a a he , I thought the carrot ? was his nose ?