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Are we being fed a lie with salmon ?

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Totallylost Sat 19-Jan-19 23:33:00


To question why no one is questioning the Scottish salmon industry . For years they have been farming salmon to a point now where the salmon are not only disease and lice ridden but also so deformed as to be beyond belief ,check out Corin Smith on FB for the truth behind the so called regulated industry , the issues around mad cow disease which no one originally believed in has had such far reaching consequences and yet the Scottish salmon farm industry has slipped under the radar with no one taking any heed , we can only hope and pray that these poor disease and toxin carrying fish that we are actively encouraged to consume are not going to be the next source of major scourge on the human race . Maybe this is why salmon is no longer considered a food for the rich but is instead packaged and processed then fed to the masses as a cheap food stuff, unfortunately it would appear that the Scottish government and its regulatory bodies is in the pockets of these unsavoury practices .

Greyduster Sun 20-Jan-19 13:37:22

Sea trout (which is actually a form seagoing brown trout) migrate from the sea into rivers to breed in the same way as salmon, but unlike salmon, they don’t die when they have spawned. 75% of sea trout return to the sea after spawning. They are, as you say, caught at sea or in estuaries, mostly at night as they are difficult to find in the daytime, but they are caught in spate rivers also. Some of the Welsh estuaries, and one in Sussex, produce excellent sea trout.

Lazigirl Sun 20-Jan-19 14:02:40

Intensive farming of any sort is bound to cause problems and the only choice is to buy organic and free range, or eat less meat and fish. Same with cheap clothing, not eat.............but buy less. Clothing manufacture and dying causes much of the world's pollution. I think it can be a problem if your only choice is to buy cheap food and clothing because not everyone can eat organic or invest the time in cooking veggie based meals from scratch.

cavewoman Sun 20-Jan-19 14:08:21

EllanVannin After a little research I cannot find any information as to why it is so dangerous to eat undercooked salmon.

Lazigirl Sun 20-Jan-19 14:16:57

I don't think it is cw. You can eat it raw in sushi can't you?

Anja Sun 20-Jan-19 14:33:10

Fennel Atlantic sea salmon is the breed of salmon. Salmon and trout can interbreed as they are very close genetically.

Jalima1108 Sun 20-Jan-19 14:49:57

fed to the masses
It's our fault.
The masses
The plebs
Needing to be fed

Greyduster Sun 20-Jan-19 15:07:51

Sorry Fennel I misconstrued your question; hence me banging on about sea trout.

M0nica Sun 20-Jan-19 15:15:31


Yes, it is the responsibility of every single one of us to try to eat in manner that is in sympathy with the environment and our need for sustenance.

In many countries meat and even fish, is a luxury, eaten in very small quantities and/or only on high days and holidays. I have reduced our meat consumption considerably because I now only buy organically farmed and high animal welfare meat, which is expensive. The same with salmon. I only buy wild salmon.

It has made surprisingly little difference to our diet. We have always been a casserole and stew based family rather than great lumps of meat family, so I continue with all our favourite dishes but with far more vegetables so that 1lb of meat will produce a stew sufficient to feed 8, and sometimes more. I love vegetables so we have always tended to have a fruit and veg heavy diet anyway.

Jalima1108 Sun 20-Jan-19 15:33:53

We tend to eat a lot of vegetables too.

One thing puzzled me recently though - the report on tv about eating much less meat and fish, very few eggs and making our diet more plant and pulse based because of the methane given off by farmed animals.
As the animals we do use for food eat a vegetarian diet does that produce the methane? If we change to a more vegetable and pulse based diet will it be humans producing the methane instead. That would be counter-productive.

M0nica Sun 20-Jan-19 15:51:02

The only way to put a serious dent in the environmental damage done by humans is to drastically reduce the number of us there are.

EllanVannin Sun 20-Jan-19 15:59:41

Cavewoman, salmon which is caught in UK waters contain parasites and I knew of someone who'd been seriously ill after eating at a restaurant.

Fennel Sun 20-Jan-19 16:09:52

I did ask about sea trout,Greyduster because I know they look like salmon but are a different breed. The flesh is paler.
More natural?
Which reminds me, eldest daughter, who has a biochemistry qualification, had a job for a short time in a scientific lab. where they made an additive to farmed fish food which caused the fish's flesh to be more red.

Totallylost Sun 20-Jan-19 16:32:43

greydusterand anja you're both absolutely right wrasse are being used, but only a few are specifically bred , most of them are being taken out of wild stock and therefore having a negative impact on yet another species

alchemilla Tue 12-Feb-19 18:49:55

I've stopped eating salmon if it's not wild. ditto tuna, which is also farmed in the mediterranean. The damage done - and it's not just the lice that kills the other species - also includes the foulness dropping from fish which are effectively caged and again destroys other species. It's not easy - and then you have the Dutch electrofishing in the North Sea destroying sand eels and the stuff fish love.

crystaltipps Tue 12-Feb-19 19:19:59

A plant based diet has much less impact on the environment in terms of water and land use and emissions than a diet that is based on meat and fish. Reducing meat and fish in our diet is one way we can help the planet.

Iam64 Tue 12-Feb-19 20:15:11

I haven't eaten farmed fish for as long as I can remember. I eat wild salmon and mackerel when it's fresh, as well as white fish.
I buy kibble for my dogs that is made from free range fish or meat.
We eat more vegetable meals than meat or fish based and I try to buy free range from sources I can trust. I know it's more expensive but I'm fortunate to be able to buy quality rather than quantity. animal welfare is something I attempt to keep central to any flesh we eat.

Urmstongran Tue 12-Feb-19 20:40:39

Grannyknot However I have since bought wild sock-eye salmon a few times, and it is delicious (but very expensive).

I’d like to buy some.
Please would you let me know where you buy from?

bikergran Tue 12-Feb-19 20:52:17

hmm just earlier on bought two packages of whoopsie salmon for myself and dd not sure if I fancy it now.confused