To side with teacher over dd?

Half an hour maybe - but all afternoon? Does seem a bit over the top. It is difficult - there has to be discipline - however, I am loath to teach children to accept things without a challenge (not in this case - obviously dangerous) but the general consensus that all children should do as they are told. A healthy society needs to questions rules and regulations some times.

How much of the afternoon's lessons is the child concerned going to have listened and learnt from when he is standing and probably not very comfortable, when other children are sitting?

Discipline should never interfer with learning.

That's true. (what Monica said)

I think the teacher sounds a right cow.

I agree with hurdygurdy...and I like the analogy with the football match or concert! No real harm done, but the child won’t forget it will they?

M0nica do you really think any child swinging on a chair is listening or learning? I can tell you they aren't
Gonegirl I would far rather someone thought me a "right cow" than I had to sit holding a child''s hand pressing a dressing to his head to stop the bleeding, waiting for the ambulance to come and take him to hospital for the stitches he needs. Not to mention the children around him who had to watch and see the split where his head hit the radiator.

Maybe it has nothing to do with the punishment, it may have to do with your dd not being supported by you

This matter is between your dd, the teacher and her kid.

Did your dd ask for your opinion? If it is unsolicited, it is making this issue even worse.

You might be catastrophising a bit there trisher.

It happened Gonegirl many years ago admittedly and before they imposed such drastic health and safety regulations. Child was about 7 kept tipping chair, was warned but didn't stop, chair slipped, he hit his head on one of those old fashioned rradiators with ridges. Lost consciousness and had a large split which bled profusely (as head wounds tend to) ambulance sent for and child taken to A&E, needed stitches. So you may find it funny, but as a teacher with just a few years experience, it was a terrifying experience and one which very much formed my attitude to kids who tipped their chairs. And as I said I'd rather be a "real cow" than ever have had to go through it again. God knows what would happen now, then, thank goodness, parents were more understanding and didn't blame everything on teachers.

trisher - "Child was about 7 kept tipping chair, was warned but didn't stop, chair slipped, he hit his head on one of those old fashioned rradiators with ridges. Lost consciousness and had a large split which bled profusely (as head wounds tend to) ambulance sent for and child taken to A&E, needed stitches"

I swear you were my son's teacher - right down to the old fashioned radiator lol

You didn't teach in Bedfordshire, did you?

On induction days I used to tell parents that I would only believe half of what their children told me about incidents at home if they did the same about school!??

Hear, hear, Trisher!
I too witnessed a similar incident.

As for the teacher being a right cow, Gonegirl, we don't know the full story, so a bit unfair to call her that, without knowing all the facts.

HurdyGurdy phew! I was a bit worried but never taught in Bedfordshire. Mostly Yorkshire and N, East apart from short period in Essex. Accident was in N.East. I reckon those radiators were lethal. They could also get boiling hot if the caretaker decided to turn the heating up!!!

I'm sorry, but I've come up against some primary school teachers who were just that. And I think this one might be.

It's quite right to be cautious about children swinging back on chairs. A friend's child did that, toppled over backwards and broke her neck in two places.

Thankfully she didn't suffer any long term damage but the very thought makes the blood run cold.

Oh we all are Gonegirl that's why we do the job and spend hours planning, recording, assessing and reporting, because for the rest of the time we can be "right cows" to the children we spend our lives caring for. (Incidently the children who might judge me a "right cow" were the ones I pulled up for bullying, messing about or otherwise causing disruption to those who were trying to learn or play . Perhaps your experiences say more about you than the teachers you encountered?)

Gonegirl, you are rather proving the point here...

Ok! That's enough! My daughter's a secondary school teacher. I know all about the workload, the stress etc.

Just because someone is a primary school teacher doesn't make them a saint.

jura haven't a clue what you're on about.

Nor does it make them a "right cow" Gonegirl. Teachers are mostly people with a social comscience who think educating future generations is a good thing and endeavour to do so despite of the negativity and attacks they receive from all sides.

Mostly.

Actually, quite a few aren't!

And don't tell me about the "negativity" and "attacks from all sides". Told you why!

So are we to assume gonegirl that you would call a teacher a 'right cow' if said child was injured? A 'right cow' for having disrupted the lesson for the remaining 25+ children who were behaving just to deal with one child who was failing to do as he was told? I think not. This was not about swinging on a chair, it was about disobeying the teacher after 3 times of asking. The other children are entitled to a calm learning environment, one child cannot be allowed to disrupt this.

Make him stand up for half an hour, yes. Not all the afternoon.

And don't give me that crap about concerts. He wouldn't be allowed in the standing area of concerts at that age.

I called this teacher. one teacher (!) a right cow. And the whole of the teaching profession from the last fifty odd years apparently descends upon me!

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