Climate change protesters anyone else think they are hypocritical? AIBU

I have a great deal of sympathy for the cause but don't agree with the methods. Questions were asked on local radio this morning - how were all those boats moved around the country, how did those protesters travel to the various locations? How is making commuters take longer routes to work, thus producing more pollution, helping the problem.

That is the same old same old Beckett and it doesn't stand up. The CO2 from pulling five boats on short journeys through the country would have a minimal impact compared to that caused by traffic everyday.

The protestors travel by train.

What methods would you suggest, bearing in mind they desperately need to be effective?

I'm afraid you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Such is the case with highlighting climate change.

Global warming and the natural cycle - There are not one but several natural cycles, of various natural and cyclic phenomena, from the earth's orbit of the sun through the gradual shift in the tilt of the earth and so the distribution of the sun's rays, through changes in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and the effect of a volcanic cycle and so on.

The impact of all of these has been calculated, temperatures added up or subtracted where appropriate, and a prediction made of what would be expected to happen naturally at this point in their combined graphs.

The result? There should be a DROP in average global temperature. Factor on the changes that humans have been causing since the Industrial Revolution and what do you predict? A RISE in average global temperatures. What are we getting? A RISE.

Factor in the continuation of those changes, and that they will be greater in the future, with a higher population, and given that some effects have a snowball effect, egging each other on and then being egged on by the effects of other factors and what do you predict? What do you think? Will it be good news or bad?

I don't understand how highlighting it does any good though, seriously.
Have there been significant changes bought about by these protests?

I'm not being facetious; I genuinely don't know.

If it had not been highlighted, would there have been any changes, or would people have said "But I didn't know . . " ?

When the Highland sinner went to heaven, God met him at the gate with a catalogue of his misdeeds, and the news that he would not be admitted but would taking the down escalator to the everlasting bonfire. The sinner wept and pleaded, and said, "But Lord, Lord, I didna ken!" But the Lord answered him "Weel, ye ken noo!"

However often people are told the truth, once more doesn't go amiss.

Thank you, I love the highlands, I could hear that lovely gentle accent when I read that.

All these protestors must be seriously loaded if they can afford to buy rail tickets at the last minute !

And just for the record :

one of the world's largest container ships can emit about as much pollution as 50 million cars. Further, the 15 largest ships in the world emit as much nitrogen oxide and sulphur oxide as the world's 760 million cars.

So how do we move anything ?

Are you asking me?! ?

I dunno. I'm only his granny.

There were interviews on local TV tonight - one person was unable to get to the hospital for an appointment, another was late for her chemo. treatment. When asked about this one of the protesters said "it's worth it"

I'm so glad my daughters chemo was never held up by protesters.
I'm not sure I would have been responsible for my actions.

N&G, I don't know how old Gonegirl's grandson is but if he has just taken his GCSEs, he will have been allowed to leave school once his last exam has been taken.

She did say he'd finished his exams.

I think.

No, he's 17. He's halfway through his A levels. The exams would be school exams I suppose.

I wish two of my grandsons would do something like this instead of ignoring my pleas to put their take-away boxes, drinks cans and all things plastic in the recycling bin.

We end up doing it for them.

In desperation!

One of my DGDs has just finished her A levels. She left school weeks ago.

He's got another year before he does his A levels.

GG'GG

I'd rather see GG's GS and his blue boat disrupting the streets of London than the Tommy Robinson menacing rabble that were causing mayhem last week.

Is that a man-bun?

Better them disrupting the streets of London than those streets awash with floodwater from an ever-rising Thames.

Has it ever occurred to those who poo-poo concern with climate change that there are two possible scenarios ahead?

1) Everyone listens to the predictions, does their best to understand them, and then alters their lifestyles to leave as small a footprint as they can. Governments listen and pass legislation that makes it an advantage to act to prevent the predictions being fulfilled and a disadvantage to continue adding to the problem. Those who see that their government is not taking any of these measures make a hell of a noise about it and persuade them to take action.
Result - global climate warning is arrested, the earth does not reach a critical and irreversable stage, all is well, and the sceptics say "See - there was no need to worry and take all that trouble after all. It never happened! What a waste of time and effort doing all that protesting and cleaning up!"

2) Starts with people saying "Shere is no point in taking the trouble to protest and causing inconvenience. It may never happen!" So protesters don't protest, no-one is inconvenienced, governments go their own sweet way, those who don't bother about climate warming continue not to worry. Thins go on as before. ~The efforts of the converted are not enough, the global temperature gradually increases, gaining speed as the feedbacks feed in and heat causes changes that generate more heat.
Result - It gets too late to reverse.

Heads in the sand only see the coming sandstorm from below the dunes that cover them.

Yes. A man bun. /

re; a couple of points above - 'global warming' is often replaced by the phrase 'climate change' or even 'climate weirding' because a lot of folk are morons and don't understand that global warming is a cause and the symptoms can be flooding or cold weather when you expect warm or droughts when you expect rain. Many of the protesters are young. Young folk protest. I used to - now I write angry letters and let the young ones do the street protests. Thank goodness some of them still do rather than spending all day attached to Televisions watching soap operas and ignoring the plight of the planet and our fellow suffering human beings - those already suffering the effects of pollution and climate damage. SOMEONE has to care. The Greatest Generation are almost gone. The Comfy Smug Generation aren't going to do anything nor will they be the ones still alive when everything really goes tits up. Well done the protesters. Anyone protesting near me will be offered a cuppa.

(wish we had a thumbs up emoji Granny4hugs)