Climate change protesters anyone else think they are hypocritical? AIBU

Global warming and the natural cycle - There are not one but several natural cycles, of various natural and cyclic phenomena, from the earth's orbit of the sun through the gradual shift in the tilt of the earth and so the distribution of the sun's rays, through changes in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and the effect of a volcanic cycle and so on.

The impact of all of these has been calculated, temperatures added up or subtracted where appropriate, and a prediction made of what would be expected to happen naturally at this point in their combined graphs.

The result? There should be a DROP in average global temperature. Factor on the changes that humans have been causing since the Industrial Revolution and what do you predict? A RISE in average global temperatures. What are we getting? A RISE.

Factor in the continuation of those changes, and that they will be greater in the future, with a higher population, and given that some effects have a snowball effect, egging each other on and then being egged on by the effects of other factors and what do you predict? What do you think? Will it be good news or bad?

I'm afraid you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Such is the case with highlighting climate change.

What methods would you suggest, bearing in mind they desperately need to be effective?

That is the same old same old Beckett and it doesn't stand up. The CO2 from pulling five boats on short journeys through the country would have a minimal impact compared to that caused by traffic everyday.

The protestors travel by train.

I have a great deal of sympathy for the cause but don't agree with the methods. Questions were asked on local radio this morning - how were all those boats moved around the country, how did those protesters travel to the various locations? How is making commuters take longer routes to work, thus producing more pollution, helping the problem.

Yu're not doing it in the right place. Get thee to London Town.

I do yoga too, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be having any impact.
Obviously I'm not "hmmmmming" properly.

Yep!

Gone - well it’s perfectly clear from the way he is standing that he is spoiled and entitled. You should be ashamed ??

I have no idea why those people are doing yoga and meditation in front of it. I guess there is no harm in it though. [shrug]

This is the blue boat in London, and Gonegirl's Gorgeous Grandson is a little figure standing on it, in a matching blue t-shirt.

Sweet innit?

Sorry I don't agree I have just got from Cardiff. I drove over to the outskirts and then cycles 9 miles into the centre. It was a joy in Cardiff, The centre roads were closed and traffic free so as a cyclist I would love this to be an every day event. The protestors were polite and tidy and all for a good cause which I support, Stop driving short distances, walk your children and gc to school and just think about the damage being done. Cardiff felt pollution free which can only be good for everyone.

I think it’s impossible to live as a human being and keep to your principles all the time ( assuming you have principles in the first place that is). So if we’re being tough, I guess we’re all capable of hypocrisy at some time. But I think that’s a harsh word in most cases. I could always do and be better in so many ways as probably most of us could but throwing the word hypocrite around is a bit much. Not too keen on the ‘spoilt and entitled ‘ mantra either

I believe that principles are only principles when you hold to them even when they inconvenience or actually hurt you.
Otherwise they are just hot air. Perhaps someone should tell Emma Thompson and her ilk.

I think the main problem in the US is the approach that it doesn't matter if man made or nature because neither are being addressed- They continually rebuild homes situated on the coast, the banks of rivers and flood zones- Again and again ..

Would still love to know where the "spoilt and entitled" bit came from eazybee. Please.

jennifereccles and all the others who think that global warming is just part of the natural cycle, my question is this why does it matter whether global warming is manmade or part of the geological cycle?

/general/causes.html]]Whether the cause is entirely human or entirely natural, surely it is foolish of us to make it worse by pouring so much extra CO2 into the atmosphere. A bit like pouring petrol on a fire and wondering why the house burns down.

je, you mention that you wonder what causes natural warming. I think you will find this article interesting.www.bgs.ac.uk/discoveringGeology/climateChange

quizqueen, you are right the one thing that will reduce global warming is a reduction in population. The good news is that we are beginning to reach those levels. Natural population growth (as distinct to immigration) has fallen below replacement level in many advanced countries worldwide. Many other countries, especially in Asia , usually considered to be have high population growth, are also approaching stasis. Of the roughly 200 countries in the world, 125 have birthrates of 2.5 (considered replacement level or less - and most of those birth rates below replacemetrate.

UN forecasts sees population growth slowing down but continuing, but other experts expect population to peak well below UN forecasts and by the end of the cntury world population could be falling.

That of course poses more but different problems

Maybe it won't be without penalty. Up to him. [shrug]

So am I as Saturday would be more effective for a protest in town. More people about for a start. I think some just want a day off school

I'm still curious how he can take ad hoc days off school without penalty? Obliging Headmaster or not :-)

It's not my grandsons boat btw. He's only got a little kyak. ?

ER leave no litter. They are very particular about that.

He's not in any way remarkable. He's a skinny little so and so with long untidy dark hair. He's a bit of a worrier , hence the ER thing.

Great to see all the replies and that the majority agree with me

I would respect the protesters more if they took home every bit of litter instead of leaving everywhere they looking like a tsunami has hit. Every festival/event they attend means a massive clear up after them - let them walk the talk!