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AIBU to mention scrotum-waxing?

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FarNorth Fri 19-Jul-19 18:34:44

An important case is underway in Canada.
Should female beauticians be legally obliged to provide intimate waxing services to transwomen with penises (men)?

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/there-are-only-losers-in-the-sad-saga-of-jessica-yaniv/?fbclid=IwAR3IN1H7GEk9zlUFlgv2Rwn6utQgpjYFDKgpHWEaenRsfqybliZWWP5st10

DameJudyClench Mon 22-Jul-19 16:08:19

And how soon will we have the same situation in the UK?

According to Penny Mordaunt we'll be finding out soon. I'm extremely worried, as she's shown her support for Self ID in the past. And we all know it would be a disaster for women and girls.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/07/04/penny-mordaunt-results-gender-recognition-act-consultation-published-asap/

lemongrove Mon 22-Jul-19 10:49:04

It’s chilling isn’t it? That a person like him can cause all this upset with his behaviour and ideas, and not only get away with it, but receive attention.It makes you worry about the direction that society is taking around the subject of trans women, and in the end makes life harder for them if the general public read accounts of perverted behaviour and assume they are all the same.
There should be no more Self identifying going on!

FarNorth Mon 22-Jul-19 10:29:10

TerriBull there are plenty of people on MN who think it's a fuss about nothing, too.

As you say, it's strange Yaniv doesn't want his behaviour kept under the radar but it seems he gets his thrills from being as obvious as possible.

He is 'one person' as Gonegirl said so dismissively, but how many other persons could be behaving equally repulsively without publicity, all enabled by Canada's self-id legislation?

And how soon will we have the same situation in the UK?

FarNorth Mon 22-Jul-19 10:20:11

BradfordLass72 Thanks for actually answering my question. grin

DameJudyClench Mon 22-Jul-19 08:01:48

Also, women should not be forced to touch male genitalia.

The person who has brought these lawsuits is well known for being incredibly litigious - in fact, they seem to be doing quite well out of it.

Yaniv is a vile, predatory creature with a tampon fetish and an unhealthy interest in young girls. They've also been outed as a racist.

DameJudyClench Mon 22-Jul-19 07:57:36

Waxing a scrotum requires a different set of skills to waxing labia. The skin is ‘baggier’ and more easily ripped

NEVER look up scrotum de-gloving envy <<not envy

TerriBull Mon 22-Jul-19 07:53:39

What is really depressing is how far down the road Canada is with what essentially is bollocks about bollocks angry There is much more awareness about this case on MN, possibly because that generation will be more affected by any future legislation. Given Jessica Yaniv's weird perverted obsession with periods/sanitary wear and their desire to start potential conversations with very young girls in washrooms on that subject, you could assume that they would want to stay well under the radar, but clearly this is not the case, indeed it appears that they get some sort of kick out of going public with their fetish. Whatever, the ruling, I suppose it would be too much to hope that their own very questionable behaviour might be put under the spotlight too and a conclusion reached this is not a person women would want around their young daughters or granddaughters. In other words it's wrong that they should be able to use female only facilities simply because they self identify as a woman.

BradfordLass72 Mon 22-Jul-19 06:07:40

AIBU to mention scrotum-waxing?

YES! Very unreasonable in such sensitive company as Gransnetters.

Orchidic Grooming is much more refained grin

FarNorth Sun 21-Jul-19 22:40:39

'Transwomen are women' is dangerous, whether the person has legal recognition or not.
Whatever treatment or surgery they get, or don't get, they are still men.

notanan2 Sun 21-Jul-19 16:38:19

We have plenty of politicians in the UK who applaud the canada model so this is not to be ignored

notanan2 Sun 21-Jul-19 16:30:49

Would a non trans identifying male be allowed to sue women for declining to consent or would it be thrown out at initial hearing for being vexatious.

It is worth bearing in mind that Y does not always identify as female & has had male aliases

This is why self ID is so dangerous. And TRUE transwomen like Miranda Yardley oppose it.

notanan2 Sun 21-Jul-19 16:26:18

Y is also getting to torchure vulerable women via the courts. She did not pick a bunch of sassy western women who will all counter sue did she

FarNorth Sun 21-Jul-19 16:14:18

Fennel it is happening in the Canadian courts now.

Yaniv seems to want maximum attention for himself as well as indulging his fetishes in public and being able to harass and intimidate biological females.

notanan2 Sun 21-Jul-19 10:18:49

There was a twitter ac quoting the proceedings as they happened.

They were equal measures rediculous (Ys parents running in and out, taking off their shoes????) and cruel (towards the woman)

Fennel Sun 21-Jul-19 10:04:54

This is shocking, and ridiculous too. What a waste of time for a Human Rights Tribunal. If it does go to the law I hope she loses and has to pay costs.
If she wants her scrotum waxed why can't he/she do it herself?
And I never knew a penis was hairy. Sorry to be crude.

TerriBull Sat 20-Jul-19 14:40:22

Oh I see you've beaten me to it notanan

TerriBull Sat 20-Jul-19 14:39:52

Google what Miranda Yardley has to say on "Jessica Yanov" if anyone wants further clarification, the individual in question appears to have a fetish about periods and worryingly hangs around washrooms discussing the prospect on Twitter of engaging very young girls into a discussion about tampons. Hence Miranda Yardley's assertion that this person is a "pervert" but strangely this person's musings on Twitter seem not to have been met with the stern admonishments that the female beauticians are now suffering and possible ruination if the case goes against them.

notanan2 Sat 20-Jul-19 14:34:22

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

notanan2 Sat 20-Jul-19 14:33:38

Dunno why link not working will try agsin..

notanan2 Sat 20-Jul-19 14:33:19

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

notanan2 Sat 20-Jul-19 14:33:06

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

notanan2 Sat 20-Jul-19 14:14:55

Has anyone already mentioned than Y wanted to be waxed while on their "period" i.e. with a tampon inserted presumably rectally and specifically the string being visable to beauticians.

That is a sexual role play scenario not a beauty treatment. Both parties consent should be required for kink-play

sodapop Sat 20-Jul-19 12:25:58

Sorry suziewoozie misunderstanding on my part.

There are so many problems here as annep1 said difficult to get my head around it all. I do agree with a lot of MaizieD's comments.

annep1 Sat 20-Jul-19 12:13:41

I found the topic interesting. SI will cause many problems we haven't thought of. Truly the world has gone mad!
Nothing else to say except I would have to be paid an awful lot of money to do this. Yuk!!

Alexa Sat 20-Jul-19 11:51:46

ouch !