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Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018.

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FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 12:27:06

Deadline is 4th August.

This consultation seeks views on implementation of the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018.

This is an Act which allows any man who chooses to call himself a woman to be included as a woman in the desired statistic of at least 50% women members of Public Boards.

It is from the Scottish Parliament but you do not have to be resident in Scotland to fill it in.

Please consider responding to this consultation.

Sparklefizz Thu 01-Aug-19 12:36:49

Women are gradually being erased !!!!

FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 12:48:18

Here is the definition of 'woman' given by the Scottish Government :

The definition of ‘woman’ for the purposes of the Act
2.12 Section 2 of the Act provides that for the purposes of the Act, “woman” includes “a person who has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment (within the meaning of section 7 of the Equality Act 2010[9]) if, and only if, the person is living as a woman and is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of becoming female”.

Further information on what a 'woman' is thought to be, can be found from Annex B Section 2.12 in this link :

FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 13:06:15

Further explanation makes clear that :

"The person does not need to have undergone any specific treatment or surgery"

"The Act does not require an appointing person to ask a candidate to prove that they meet the definition of woman in the Act."

So, not only can 'woman' include any man who chooses to call himself a woman, no check will be made of whether any of the carefully set out 'qualifying conditions' are being met.

Totally furious. angry

Iam64 Thu 01-Aug-19 13:19:15

Many of our generation worked all our adult lives to protect, improve and promote the rights of women. Because we express concern about trans women who still have a penis being given access to women only spaces, like women’s refuges, we are subjected to abuse by some trans activists

Its ironic the trans activists seem to believe they have more rights than other women

paddyann Thu 01-Aug-19 13:45:03

Transgender people aren't looking for MORE rights just the same rights .I have two young friends currently transgendering from female to male .Neither have had the surgery yet both use male loos .Would you rather they used famale loos would that fit with your victim mentality .Two young MALES in a womans toilet.I'd bet you would complain! Life and the world move forward.It may not be what YOU want but its what it is .You either move with it or get left behind in your wee coccoon of bigotry

FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 13:58:42

I wasn't mentioning toilets and don't want to get sidetracked by that.

Are you happy that, in this instance, 'woman' includes anyone who chooses to say they are a woman, as there is to be no check on whether the person is meeting any of the proposed requirements?

FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 13:59:38

'Sex' and 'Gender Reassignment' are separate protected characteristics, in the Equality Act 2010, and should be monitored separately.

EllanVannin Thu 01-Aug-19 14:07:49

Unless a person's anatomy has been changed then they remain to be the gender that they were born as/with.
This is the way I see it.

TerriBull Thu 01-Aug-19 14:35:33

I think you will find Paddyann females transgendering from female to male aren't going to present the same sort of problems as male to female insomuch as men in public toilets are not going to be as vulnerable as say a young girl in a women only toilet next to a transwoman of the Jessica Yaniv variety. I accept they are on the extreme end of the spectrum but I wouldn't be happy for my granddaughter to be put in the position that some of the girls he encountered in washrooms were.

TerriBull Thu 01-Aug-19 15:07:05

correction "they" not he last line

EllanVannin Thu 01-Aug-19 15:45:45

It's a lobotomy half of them need !

FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 15:51:12

confused Not sure how that would help, EllanVannin.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Aug-19 16:20:52

Unfortunately it is a biological fact that you can change your outward gender but you cannot change your sex (chromosomes).

If you are born a man you die a man.

Iam64 Thu 01-Aug-19 18:53:08

paddynan, I don't live in 'a wee cocoon of bigotry'.

I know two young people, one transitioning female to male, the other male to female. I support their decisions. They were old enough to make them and I have some understanding of their struggles.

My concern is about the transactivists who attack women on social media. Use highly abusive terms to describe, for example, feminist lawyers who raise what. see as legitimate concerns about the rights/emotional and psychological needs of 4 year olds whose parent/guardian insists, against expert evidence, that the child believes s/he was born in the wrong body. I don't dispute that some very young children have often felt that way. I do dispute that it's always right to encourage them to see themselves as transgender at such a tender age.
Sensitive, loving parenting doesn't involve imposing our own emotional needs on our children, which in some cases is what is happening .

it's a complex issue and attacking someone who is wants to develop understanding and protect children, calling us 'bigots' doesn't help anyone.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Aug-19 19:02:19

Iam64 I totally agree with and support your post.

TerriBull Thu 01-Aug-19 19:14:12

I second that GG.

FarNorth Thu 01-Aug-19 19:43:59

Please consider responding to the consultation.
It's not necessary to answer all questions - any contribution you can make will be valuable.

SueDonim Thu 01-Aug-19 21:36:18

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, FarNorth. It had passed me by entirely! I've competed the consultation.