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To feel the BBC should be impartial?

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Persistentdonor Mon 11-Nov-19 10:07:38

Yesterday, live footage from the Cenotaph showed our PM looking less than smart, stumbling around and presenting his wreath upside down, while H.M. Queen watched from a balcony.
Today, on BBC morning news, the 2019 Cenotaph ceremony was reported, showing a clip from 2106 of Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, looking smart in a suit, and watched by H.M. Queen standing at street level.

I am horrified to know that the BBC is manipulating public opinion in this way. I thought the BBC is supposed to be fair and impartial. Clearly I was wrong. angry

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 18:30:30

yes, mistakes happens - but this was not a mistake.

And yes, I certainly hope that it will not help, and will actually make some people think about who, and why - is trying to protect him and his lies.

I'd tend to agree about the reef - I think the strong reaction is about the double standards and hypocrisy- after all the criticism by many, oncluding here ... about Corbyn's choice of coat last year.

lemongrove Tue 12-Nov-19 18:33:54

He didn’t need ‘help’ though, that’s what is so daft ( if it was done on purpose) as nobody cares about the wreath laying being slightly wrong ( I hadn’t noticed on tv anyway.)

varian Tue 12-Nov-19 18:42:10

The Brexit Broadcasting Corporation is letting us all down

suziewoozie Tue 12-Nov-19 23:03:10

For me it’s not BJ’s scruffy appearance, it’s not his stepping out to early to place his wreath and having to retreat, it’s not his laying it upside down - it’s the sheer hypocrisy of people who say they didn’t notice or it didn’t matter who every year have piled in on JC for the wrong kind of coat, the wrong size of poppy, holding his wreath in the wrong position.

Pantglas2 Wed 13-Nov-19 06:19:54

It’s not just recently with BJ and Corbyn though - go further back to the eighties and you’ll find Michael Foot was given the same treatment.

There may be others I’m not aware of as I was out of the country for some of that time. This choosing a victim and attack, attack, attack, is very distasteful in my opinion.

Chestnut Wed 13-Nov-19 13:50:04

This choosing a victim and attack, attack, attack, is very distasteful in my opinion.
There's a lot of that on these boards. Boris and Farage get slaughtered on an hourly basis!

jura2 Wed 13-Nov-19 20:02:46

And for very understandable reasons.

Pantglas2 Wed 13-Nov-19 20:15:27

I think you can disagree with a political stance jura2 without going all out Tora! Tora! Tora!

Sometimes simply stating the case would be more persuasive. On a personal level I respond better to reasoned, balanced argument giving pros and cons, than I do to persistent, dogmatic, one sided bias.

The less is more approach is something both sides need to adopt to persuade us centrists of their cause, and let’s face it, we will have to vote one way or another.....

varian Thu 14-Nov-19 20:00:51

There is not just a choice between two extremes. The best possible choics for everyone, especially centrists and remainers, is to vote Liberal Democrat

varian Thu 14-Nov-19 20:21:42

twitter.com/LibDems/status/1195061839056359425?s=09

Callistemon Thu 14-Nov-19 20:27:05

I am finding Jo Swinson difficult to listen to varian so I'm not picking up her message.
She is making me feel like a year 5/6 pupil.

jura2 Thu 14-Nov-19 21:45:15

5/6 year old pupils tend to like or not like, and do well or not well - depending on the personality of the teacher- and then

they grow up and realise there is a lot more at stake than that.

Callistemon Fri 15-Nov-19 17:28:22

Do you never hear someone speaking publicly who has a piercing voice which you just have to turn off, jura?
I think some politicians have been known to have voice coaching.

Useful when teaching easily distracted Y5/6 boys perhaps but that piercing tone can actually hurt sensitive eardrums.

varian Fri 15-Nov-19 19:09:21

We are in a general election campaign yet this week the Brexit Broadcasting Corplratjon has no LibDem spokesperson on Questton Time or Any Questions

Callistemon Fri 15-Nov-19 19:15:33

hmm

That is very strange varian

varian Fri 15-Nov-19 19:42:09

It is a travesty of democracy, typical of the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation over many years.

varian Fri 15-Nov-19 20:21:10

It is an outrage that millions of Remainers will not have a voice in the ITV election debate.

Corbyn and Johnson are running scared of Jo Swinson - add your name to demand they #DebateHer ⬇️

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Chestnut Fri 15-Nov-19 22:57:39

It is an outrage that millions of Remainers will not have a voice in the ITV election debate.
Calm down dear. And get your facts straight. The LimpDems, Greens and Nicola Sturgeon are on the BBC next Friday.

SirChenjin Fri 15-Nov-19 22:59:17

Are they going to be on the ITV debate?

varian Sat 16-Nov-19 07:18:50

There are three possible candidates for PM, the leaders of the parties which are standing in over 600 seats, just as there were in 2010 when Nick Clegg, Gordon Brown and David Cameron took part in the leaders debate.

When the LibDem policies and the LibDem leader were compared with the other two, there was a general agreement that the Libdems had won. Brown and Cameron kept saying" I agree with Nick"

Now we have two unpopular men leading parties which are much more extreme and it appears they are unwilling to debate a woman who is able to express the views of millions of voters who do not want a far right or far left government.

Jo Ssinson wants to stop brexit and would clearly explain why we are better off remaining in the EU. Is that what they are frightened of?

The public should be able to compare the three leaders alongside each other and judge for themselves which of the three talks sense.

varian Sat 16-Nov-19 07:19:56

Jo Swinson

GracesGranMK3 Sat 16-Nov-19 07:59:35

Corbyn and Johnson are running scared of Jo Swinson ...

Really? I haven't heard them mention her unless directly asked. I think the LDs have caused their own problems by going for revoke instead of a confirmatory referendum.

There is an all party debate as well.

varian Sat 16-Nov-19 08:20:32

The Liberal Democrats have always supported a se one referendum and voted for it 17 times in the HOC

However if there should be a majority LD govt that would be a mandate to revoke Article 50 and Remain in the EU.

varian Sat 16-Nov-19 08:25:00

We should remember that over 6 million people signed a petition asking for Article 50 to be revoked

yggdrasil Sat 16-Nov-19 10:12:08

varian: Corbyn and Johnson are running scared of Jo Swinson - add your name to demand they #DebateHer ⬇️

Not scared, merely slightly annoyed. She makes too much noise and arrogance for a leader of a minority party.
There is a hope that Johnson and Corbyn will actually talk of something other than Brexit, which wouldn't happen if she was there. She will get her chance along with all other parties at the later debate