To feel the BBC should be impartial?

This subject crops up from time to time on GN.....usually accusing the Beeb of right wing bias, but sometimes t’other way round.I think they usually get it about right, and people just view it through the prism of their own party politics.

I think there’s a difference between a general discussion on the partiality or otherwise of the BBC and this specific example which is not a good look and has not been handled well at all imo. But maybe I’ve forgotten the last time the BBC made an editing mistake that worked in JC’s favour

And my point is that they’ve always done it even in the eighties with Michael foot let alone recently! Not suggesting it’s right.

It may be your point but you don't seem to present any evidence, just gay abandon when it welcomes to the truth. That's not how I see things. I think there should be an enquiry into how and why it happened.

I haven’t seen the clip in question, but it hardly seems to be working in Johnson’s favour.

You do like your straw men arguments. If you read the OP nothing was said about bias. It is about honesty, whoever it affects. Perhaps those trying to derail the thread from that point are not too bothered about plain, common or garden honesty.

It's not good enough just for them to be tweeting about it. Not everyone does twitter. If a newspaper gets things wrong they have to insert a small paragraph somewhere. The Beeb should have to say something. But they won't. Expect it's well and truly under the carpet now.

Lemon you haven’t seen the clip in question? And you think it’s ok to comment on it? ??????

But, like Lemongrove says, it's not working in Boris' favour. It's drawing a lot of attention to a couple of mistakes that would probably have been forgotten by now.

I bet he wishes the Beeb had left well alone. Poor Boris. ?

Can't see the point in all the bitchy laughing there.

As this is not working in Boris's favour, it could be argued that it was Milne, not Cummings as suggested above, who ordered the old footage to be shown.

Ah yes the ‘straw man argument’ as defence.....

Yes suziewoozie I do think it’s ok to comment on it.I have no need to actually see it as I take on board the many comments that the BBC have mixed up footage and showed some of Boris and JC at the cenotaph from another year.
The BBC have not denied it, have they?
It isn’t working in Boris Johnson’s favour is my point.

It must have been suggested on another thread that this may have happened on Cummings's instructions


Are there two threads on this?

Yes. "Corbin at the Cenotaph and lays a wreath" has changed to discussing Boris and Beeb. Confusing.

Corbyn

The point that those of us who have seen it and read RB’s explanation ( which has been challenged) is that it’s a continuous clip which has had the 2016 section expertly edited in. If it had been the wrong freestanding clip it might have been more understandable. But then you haven’t seen it so it s probably hard for you to understand. Never mind.

There are several mixed up threads now involving Corbyn, Cenotaph, Festival of Remembrance, White Poppies BBC etc - a bit confusing

The footage of JC was the correct footage btw - gosh lemon anyone would think you hadn’t seen it ...

It's very odd as the wreath was totally different - didn't they think that people would know the difference between the wreaths that the PM etc lay and the Foreign Secretary lays?

Gosh Suziewoozie ......could you be any more patronising or sarcastic......am guessing you have had plenty of practise.

I would suggest that none in this thread have the practical knowhow or knowledge of BBC editing or showing clips etc
So have really to accept their explanation of the event and what occurred/ what staff did, odd as it appears.

As usual, those who do not have practical knowhow or knowledge - do reply on experts who do. A large number of people with the relevant experience have come forward to explain that this cannot have been a mistake. I know some don't like experts these days- but I think they are very useful and should be listened to.

The verdict is clear as a bell.

Mistakes happen * jura* although if it wasn’t I don’t see how it helped Johnson in any way .

Not that laying a wreath the wrong way round matters two jots anyway.