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Empathy for Our Queen? ( As a Mother)

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Bridgeit Wed 20-Nov-19 14:52:39

In the light of recent events, and as mothers & Grandmothers
How much empathy/ sympathy do we have for The Queen ?

She has always been so stoic, & has now been badly let down, will she / should she consider sending PA to the tower ( or the outer Hebrides) for a cooling off period. ?
She certainly does not deserve this at her time of life & dedication to her role.
I definitely feel for her, The Christmas speech should be interesting !

Callistemon Wed 20-Nov-19 18:13:34

Oh, ok

Now which deserted island was it where Tom Hanks got stranded?

loopylou Wed 20-Nov-19 18:13:07

The BBC have announced he's standing down from public life for the foreseeable future so goodness knows what's going on behind the scenes.
I do feel a little for HMQ but she's the one who's fondly smiled upon her golden boy and turned a blind eye to his various exploits so surely must take some blame?
There was a very interesting article about him in Monday's Guardian newspaper, very enlightening.
I suspect a great deal more is about to be exposed hence getting him away from the public eye before he digs himself deeper into the sh1t.

FlexibleFriend Wed 20-Nov-19 18:12:59

At his age he's the only person who should be held accountable for his behaviour. I know parents always feel responsible for their offspring but it's ridiculous to hold a woman in her 90's accountable for his actions. She should sack him but she won't, apparently he's her favourite so no chance of him getting the boot. He has had a proper job, he was a helicopter pilot during the falklands war but he's done as little as possible since then. He gets mummy to appoint him to a position where he can wine and dine and play golf to promote trade etc which could be done more effectively by a minister for a fraction of the cost. There are far too many hangers on in the royal family who do very little to earn their keep.

MawB Wed 20-Nov-19 18:11:22

Oh Callistemon don’t be a spoilsport.
There must be a corner of deepest Bongo bongo land, perhaps where the natives are cannibals......grin
(PS please don’t anybody pounce on me for Bongo bongo land -it’s called irony)

Callistemon Wed 20-Nov-19 17:54:50

I feel for her as a mother too and she obviously believes her son's excuses. However, her advisers are either poor or she has ignored them to stand by him so publicly.

She does not need this having done such a sterling job as our Head of State for all these years.

MawB sorry to disagree but no Commonwealth country deserves him as Governor General where he could indulge himself as he wished.

There have been so many other shady deals he has allegedly been involved with; his ex-wife knows the truth and both of them are a disgrace to the royal Family and to the UK.

jura2 Wed 20-Nov-19 17:49:37

yes, I really feel sorry for her- as a mother- but also that she has to be seen to support Johnson. Two massive liars ...she deserves better.

Calendargirl Wed 20-Nov-19 17:47:58

Sorry sw, your name should have a z not s.

Calendargirl Wed 20-Nov-19 17:46:57

If she’s not up to the job, she should abdicate

No one has said the Queen is not up to the job suziewoosie, and I for one hope she’ll never abdicate.

Anniebach Wed 20-Nov-19 17:19:05

The queen was only 10 when she became heir to throne, witnessed the trauma of the abdication and the effect on her parents and grandmother. Only God know what her life became then, her grandmother played a big part in her upbringing and the queen was obviously aware of the effect of the abdication on her grandmother.

Unfair to judge her as a mother .

sodapop Wed 20-Nov-19 17:18:57

None of us can be held responsible for the actions of our adult children. I do feel sorry for a lady of 93 having to deal with such public misbehaviour. That said it does seem like Andrew has been over indulged and is consequently arrogant and selfish.

craftyone Wed 20-Nov-19 17:13:30

PA is a disgrace as a human being, he is a user and an abuser who has never had a real job. I feel very sorry for the queen, very sorry for her as a human being. I hope she has someone to talk too, perhaps Anne

SueDonim Wed 20-Nov-19 17:07:47

Bridgeit what have the Outer Hebrides done to deserve that? I don't think he'd be very welcome there!

I do feel sorry for the Queen. I'd be mortified and hopping mad if one of my DC was involved in such a sordid business.

Alexa Wed 20-Nov-19 16:50:39

I don't feel sorry for the Queen as she is a tremendous success in her job and in bearing a lot of healthy heirs to the throne. And in being very rich. Most of all she has some lovely horses.

grapefruitpip Wed 20-Nov-19 16:47:28

I suppose in some ways the Queen has been the glue that has held much together. Just as the political situation, the monarchy is imploding.

gallusquine Wed 20-Nov-19 16:27:06

As always the queens main consideration will be how this impacts on the continuation of the Monarchy. The Firm comes first.

BlueBelle Wed 20-Nov-19 16:14:07

As a mother I feel for her I would almost bet his daughters believe him as does their mother so I m not too bothered about them to be honest, embarrassing though it may be for them, maybe his mother believes him too who knows!
The queens had quite a time really with Charles divorce, Diana’s death, Anne s divorce, Andrews divorce and all the razzamatazz that went with that and Sarah’s affairs Previously she had all the controversy of her sisters affairs and divorce and lots of rumours about Philip and indiscretions She’s had a few Annus horibilis years hasn’t she
Edward has kept a very low profile and seems the only one to get away with no controversial happenings

suziewoozie Wed 20-Nov-19 16:08:09

The one thing we know as an absolute basic fact is that he went to stay at the house of a convicted paedophile - that’s enough

‘Unpleasant’ well that’s one way of describing child sex trafficking I suppose.

Framilode Wed 20-Nov-19 16:06:55

She is a wonderful Queen but a wonderful mother? I think not. From everything I have read she was a very distant and rather cold mother who is not particularly interested in children. When Charles was first born she chose to leave him during the week at the country house with a nanny.

When she came home from overseas tours she went to see the horses first, then the dogs and finally the children. One of her senior courtiers remarked that if she had put in as much time to her children as she did to her animals the results would have been very different.

Having said all that, I do feel sorry for her at her age having to face all this.

Gonegirl Wed 20-Nov-19 15:59:13

I don't have sympathy for any of them. I think they are all probably much of a muchness. No doubt she is cross with Andrew for getting found out.

eazybee Wed 20-Nov-19 15:54:19

I would imagine that the Queen and Prince Andrew know far more about all aspects of this unpleasant case than any of us who post here.
Innocent until proved guilty.

Grandma70s Wed 20-Nov-19 15:26:44

I feel we don’t know enough real facts to make serious judgements. The Queen must be used by now to press sensationalism. I doubt if she knows her children very well, somehow.

But yes, if he were my son I would be deeply embarrassed. I would want to know the truth, however bad. He’s hardly the first embarrassing son in the Royal family. I wonder what Queen Victoria thought of her son who became Edward V11?

timetogo2016 Wed 20-Nov-19 15:21:37

P A is a disgrace to the royal family.
Our wonderful Queen must be devastated at what`s going through the press be it true or not.
She doesn`t need this at her time of life bless her.
he`s let her/his girls/his Father/well the whole family down.
He WILL live to regret it.
He was my favourite royal not any longer.

suziewoozie Wed 20-Nov-19 15:17:40

Yes I have sympathy for B and E - they certainly drew the short straw when parents were given out.

suziewoozie Wed 20-Nov-19 15:14:59

PC should also have made sure he was properly briefed about the whole sleazy business.

Smileless2012 Wed 20-Nov-19 15:11:54

I feel sorry for her and as Summerlove has posted for Beatrice and Eugenie.

Not only do they now know what he's like, he even bought one of them into his defence by saying he couldn't on one occasion have been where he'd been accused of being, because he was out with his daughter.

He's shameful.