Empathy for Our Queen? ( As a Mother)

We’ll see annie we’ll see

Mentioned his mental health has he? Did he mention the mental health of abused and trafficked young women? Thought not.

Which ones?
One in the South Sandwich Islands and the other on South Georgia?

He is going to continue with two projects

What a mess, and it all has to be played out in the public eye. I do wonder if Andrew will simply unravel now; he has been a soldier and a businessman, and now all 'business' has withdrawn from him for the worst reasons, he is publicly reviled and is without purpose. He has already mentioned his mental health because of the situation he is in.

My figures are without the massive increase for repairs

The Sovereign Grant is very different from the CL and was a great wheeze dreamed up by George Osborne and no doubt a gleeful BP. It means we never have a debate now about increasing their income and more importantly they get massive year on year increases. 8% is the lowest I think since it started and it’s sometimes been in double figures. Meanwhile ... we were just played weren’t we and continue to be’

I feel so sorry for the Queen, at her age and after years of serving her Country, she should be enjoying the twilight years, as many of us are.My sympathy goes out to our lovely Queen.Long may she reign.

suziwoozie you are right about many born around the same time as the queen.

I don't suppose the queen is worried about keeping warm this winter, how she can get to the doctors/hospital when she needs, whether she is eligible for a care package, or whether she can afford her TV licence.

I think the Sovereign Grant was increased by so much because expensive repairs were needed to Buckingham Palace which had been neglected by governments for years.
It is the office of Head of State and where foreign dignitaries, other Heads of State etc are entertained; it's not a home as such.

Some such residence would be required whoever was Head of State. Building a new one would cost far more.
Routine maintenance is more cost-effective than leaving a building to rot, leak and then have to pay out a fortune in repairs.

Yes, that's what it is known as now suziewoozie, the Sovereign Grant and HM pays whoever is carrying out duties on her behalf from Royals to Footmen

Charles has his own income.

Andrew gets £20,000 pension as an ex-Lieutenant Commander (promoted to Vice Admiral since leaving naval service!)
He's not due his state pension yet, though, so could be strapped for cash.

I am not a fan of the royal family or the queen. However, I do have some sympathy for her at the moment. Any parent would find the current situation to be distressing.

However, I have more sympathy for ordinary people who have the normal anxieties of paying the mortgage/rent, transport, energy bills, council tax, phone, etc, plus inadequate support for child or elder care. Difficulties with young people are often created or exacerbated by a lack of time to spend with children and a lack of finances to create emotional and material security - something which the royal family does not have to contend with.

Yes third child but 2nd in line

He seems to me to be an arrogant idiot who was drawn into the wrong ‘set’. I’m pleased to hear that he won’t be a drain on the economy anymore and I hope her Madge docks his pocket money.

I do feel sorry for his family especially his girls, but did they not realise what company he was keeping? Are they all so isolated from each other?

Surely this is the logical result of this awful system whereby we revere, defer, bow and scrape to people purely by dint of their birth? This is what has contributed to PA’s extreme arrogance, sense of entitlement and determination that HE need not explain himself to anyone - and certainly not to mere ‘subjects’ It also most likely explains his lack of sympathy or empathy for Epstein’s victims. After all - they couldn’t possibly have the same ‘worth’ as his ROYAL daughters - their function was merely to entertain. They should’ve been grateful!
Makes me fume.

I can’t believe that Prince Andrew said that his actions had not had a bad effect on The Queen. Does he not realise that first of all she is his mother, and all mothers would be horrified if their son behaved as he has.

Andrew was the Queen's 3rd.

Second child syndrome ?

Margaret, Andrew, Harry , spoilt ?

Perhaps PA is in temperament a little more like Princess Margaret , than he is the Queen.

Anyone whose children have ever given them problems must be so grateful that they are not in the public eye.

My parents who were her age, worked very very hard, and died with multiple health problems in their 70s and always had to worry about money

Oops my dreadful typing.

The Queen is a victim of her birthright. Her father smoked himself to death and because our Queen had to take up being the monarch we have put her in the role of Queen probably long before she could have time to enjoy just being a mother .
You cannot say she has not been a very hardworking you cannot say she has not worked hard.

We can see that this must be stressful for the Royal family (particularly the Queen due to her years) - but to be honest, it is those who are the victims that I feel more sorry for.

suziewoozie has beaten me to it with some info on CL!