Outdoor shoes inside

Naty Bad diet and pollution probably are factors in the higher rate of allergies nowadays. Lack of exposure to bacteria is another factor. My two children had similar diets, but the older one had eczema and the younger didn’t. One reason may have been that I was excessively hygienic with the older one. Playing outside seems to help children’s immune systems, so playing on floors that people have trodden on in outdoor shoes (but that are cleaned regularly) seems fine to me.

Detergent and water will kill a good number of bacteria. There are eco-friendly detergents (such as I use) which are unlikely to damage a family’s health.

It is not a good experience having to tread on urine. However, by the time I get home after doing that, I figure a lot of it will have worn off already, and the remnant will get cleaned off when I clean the floors.

Personally, I would rather have that on my floors than someone’s verruca or smelly feet.

However, everyone is entitled to choose their own way of doing things.

Jane 10 and Nightsky2 you have really.made me laugh.thanks

Pudding123


Offer to clean the soles of his shoes for him!!
Or show him a scrubbing brush and the Dettox and let him do them himself.

I wouldn't mind doing that because I can't manage without shoes.

I always go to take my shoes off when visiting someones house. Lots of times people say please don't bother to remove shoes - so I don't. I never expect people to take their shoes off when visiting me and if they go to do so I say no worries keep your shoes on - it's only dirt after all and can be cleaned up. I'd rather have their company and am not worried at all by a bit of dirt. . My son and DIL have a no outside shoes in the house rule which I respect and take our slippers. Don't see the big deal - unless of course you live at the end of a really muddy lane and have very light carpets - which would seem a bit dim.

When I'm out walking I always have an eye out for phlegm, animal/human wee and mess, vomit, chewing gum and discarded food. I've never seen UK walkways as bad as they are nowadays.
Phlegm is a particular problem and who would want that walked into their homes?
When I visit someone's home, it is their space and their rules. I always enquire if I should take off my shoes. I was brought up to be polite and respectful.

That is so rude and disrespectful to you. You say they don’t like your husband, but it sounds like he has more reason for not liking them. We never even have to ask people to remove shoes, they just do it. We always take slippers where ever we go. Everyone who comes to your house should remove their shoes if that is your request.

kaycee we’ve had many occasions where people have had dog muck on their shoes. If we hadn’t had a “ no shoes” rule, then it would have been quite vile.

T.B.

is back.......when I was a child there were public service short films warning not to spit in the street,
T.B. was still commonplace.

People did not spit in the street.
Different times, different values, spitting now common.

T.B. is back and is transferable via sputum on footwear.
So please do not say it is only dirt.

OMG how have we survived so long while not expecting shoes to be removed in the house
Amazingly we did even at the height of TB and with patients traipsing through our house!!
Watch where you walk, get a hoover and chill!

"We" (those of us on here) have obviously survived this, and any other potentially deadly threat that might have come our way so far, but many others didn't, or suffered life-changing consequences as a result, so I don't really see the value of that particular reasoning.

We must all have a direct ancestor who survived the black death too, and in fact every other type of natural disaster that has killed so many throughout the history of mankind, but that doesn't make the risks that they faced any less serious.

As for TB - you just have to a bit of genealogy, or to watch programmes like Who do you think you are? to see that almost every family lost people, often young people, to this awful disease. I know ours did, just a couple of generations ago.

I am well aware of TB. It's transmitted via breathing droplets of contaminated air. Obviously, we coped with the many tramping feet (in shoes gasp!) of patients through our house over many years by not sniffing the carpets!

OK, carry on with the filthy habit if it suits you, Jane10, but our family have always changed shoes at the door.

There are often crawling babies and toddlers around. We know that their hands are often in their mouths - so really it's just the same as letting them crawl around in the dirt outside. Yuk!

Children have always played out in the garden, surely?

if you wear shoes in the house, you will not have any contact with whatever was anyone else's shoes. Most contaminants on a shoe are walked off long before you get to anyone's front door, unless the contaminant is actually on the doorstep.

How many people become ill from a street contaminant compared with those who become ill because they got the contaminat on their hands when trying to scrape it off?

Jane10
Unfortunately babies do sit on carpets.

Babies sit on swings and slides and in parks too... Where there are SHOES!

I don’t know Monica and neither do you. Neither do you seem to have a clear idea of what constitutes a ‘contaminant’.

MissA yes, making mud pies!

TB is transferable on footwear

Do you have a link about that please pinkquartz

Surely anyone would put tiny babies on a rug or play mat and always vacuum before allowing a crawling baby down on the floor?

What about dogs?

Do any of you who are 'shoes off' own dogs?

Or cats for that matter

Dogs are a nuisance
Cats are worse
That's the end of my little verse.

Sorry, yes, you can wash a dog's paws but try catching a cat! Or clearing up innards brought in as a present.

I will try to find a link tomorrow.

I have a dead grandchild to TB. she was 15 months old and there is no TB in the family. She was not taken out more than half a dozen times as her mum, my DD had Post Natal Depression at the time.

I could never forget that my DD's family did not have a shoes off rule in their house. She has other children and lived in a busy city where it is common for people to spit on the pavement.

So for me the blase comments are galling.
Maybe if you don't walk around the less affluent parts of a multicultural city life is more secure and safe?
Reminders of the Victorians building sewage systems when the diseases of the poor had affected the better off.
perhaps spit strewn streets are perfectly safe but I wouldn't bet on it.

Yes I might be completely off my head on this but then what happened is awful.

Buses in Edinburgh in my youth had ‘do not spit’ signs due to TB. Sadly my mother had it as a child. However, taking shoes off at the front door is not something I grew up with. I nearly tripped over one of the first ladies who invited me into their home in Essex as she removed hers t the front door but quickly learned about this ‘local’ tradition. I began to think it was me but visiting relatives have proved me wrong.

From a TB website

When someone with TB in their lungs or throat coughs or sneezes, they send droplets into the air that contain the TB bacteria. If you breathe in these bacteria over a long time you may become ill with TB. But most people won’t get ill because:

*you normally need to spend many hours close to a person with infectious TB to breathe in enough bacteria to be at risk
most people’s immune systems are strong enough to kill off TB bacteria.*
TB cannot be spread through touch, sharing cutlery, bedding or clothes.