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Dolls for boys and cars for girls

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grannyactivist Tue 07-Jan-20 18:44:01

I like to shop locally and we have a super little toy shop in town which is where I usually buy my grandchildren's toys, so I usually have no cause to look online. However, I'm (slowly) recovering from a very debilitating illness and so I was looking online for a boy doll for my grandson and some cars for my granddaughter.

This is what I found:

It's thirty years since I bought a dolly and pushchair for my toddler son so I was genuinely shocked to see that it is still girls who were shown playing with dolls and boys who were playing with cars!! Because of course we all know that women don't drive and men never look after a baby!!

In fairness I should say that the reply from Smyths Toys to my complaint about their depiction of gender based roles was a mea culpa and a promise to do better in the future.

Saggi Thu 09-Jan-20 10:48:34

Speldnan.... I’m totally surprised by your post..... I had a black dolly when I was 8 years old for my birthday.... I was also given twin dollies ( boy and girl)...for Christmas three weeks later. But I didn’t really notice the colour of her face as I’d had a black brother since being born , he was four years older than me. But really surprised that black dolls seemed to be around 60 years ago but not so much now.

Chestnut Thu 09-Jan-20 11:15:42

There are plenty of black dolls for children on Amazon so this is not true.

SirChenjin Thu 09-Jan-20 11:46:05

How many black dolls (or indeed any other ethnic groups) are available on the high street though?

allule Thu 09-Jan-20 11:54:09

I think the gender bias is encouraged by marketing experts. If you buy a pink sparkly bike for your daughter, you would be more likely to buy a blue one for your son, rather than pass on the pink one.
Sharing is not good for trade!

Chestnut Thu 09-Jan-20 13:07:13

SirChenjin I find high street shops have a very limited range of anything now. You can search for hours round the shops and then find what you want in 2 minutes online. That applies to many different things which may include black dolls.

sazz1 Thu 09-Jan-20 13:15:18

My DD was determined to bring up DGD to play with boys and girls toys. DGD had other ideas and almost totally ignored the work bench, train set, cars and lorries etc. in favour of play food, shopping trolley, toy kitchen, toy vacuum. And she will only wear purple or pink, hates trousers and loves dresses.

SirChenjin Thu 09-Jan-20 13:30:58

They don’t have a limited range of (or absence of) white dolls Chestnut. Minority groups make up more than 10% of the UK population after all - hardly an insignificant number.

Chestnut Thu 09-Jan-20 13:39:56

I doubt that high street shops can cater for 100% of the population's requirements SirChenjin. People can always shop online.

SirChenjin Thu 09-Jan-20 13:43:10

I doubt if they could do that too Chestnut - but that’s not I’ve suggested, is it.

Speldnan Thu 09-Jan-20 13:43:55

Definitely no dolls other than white in the high street. Yes there were “black” dolls in the old days but I have a feeling they were novelty items for white kids rather than being inclusive. Besides my GD is not exactly “black” any more than “white” but something in between.

Oopsminty Thu 09-Jan-20 13:48:30

How many black dolls (or indeed any other ethnic groups) are available on the high street though?

What is this 'high street', you speak of?

I live in an area that was rather famous for its 'high street'

Not any more. No shops to speak of. Coffee shops and empty premises.

I can't remember the last time I saw a traditional toy shop either.

Many of us shop online these days

And there's plenty of choice there.

SirChenjin Thu 09-Jan-20 13:52:07

I have a high street and several out of town shopping centres with shops like Asda, Tesco, Debenhams, Argos, The Entertainer, Poundland, pound World, B and M, Home Bargains and on and on - they all sell toys. Y’know, that sort of high street.

Oopsminty Thu 09-Jan-20 13:54:42

Debenhams won't be there long

The shops you mention have a limited amount of space.

Shop online

It's the future and you won't have to fret about getting to these ghastly shops and looking for dolls that suit

SirChenjin Thu 09-Jan-20 13:58:09

Who knows what will happen to Debenhams or the rest but that’s not relevant - they’re here now.

I like a visit to the high street and the out of town centres. No fretting here.