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donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 12:32:32

Hi everyone, I am a newby on here and would like your honest advice.
I try to support and help people when I can...simply because I have not had a great support in my life and knows how it feels. I remember years ago a lady I met said to me...' I and others could quite easily take you for granted.' That has stayed with me for many years and pops its head up from time to time. Over the last two years I have caught up with a lady I went to school with on Facebook. She developed breast cancer when we first started communicating, had all her treatment and just wanted to get back to normal. Towards the end of last year our communication died down a bit until her partner messaged me to say the Cancer had returned. I contacted her and went to see her for the first time at her home taking with me a gift box put together by myself of all Self Care items which she thanked me for. Whilst there our conversation turned to buying a new bed...she told me that someone was selling a nearly new bed frame...an automatic one which would help her if she needed to have her own bed in the future. When I got home I could not get her out of my mind ...thinking what else can I do to help her? A week later it come to me...I messaged her and asked her if the bed was still if available...which it was...so I transferred the money over for her to buy the bed. She thanked me again....weeks later I was talking to her on Facebook and she was telling me she wasn't getting much sleep...at the time I was looking to order online one of those therapy blankets for my Dad who also is not well. I asked for her address to send her one...she told me she had one and that they were good. So I said ok I will leave it. She then said 'Oh I will still have it' so I sent her a new therapy blanket and said it would be a birthday present as her birthday was coming up. A week later she messaged me and asked me to lend her a couple of hundred pound! I was shocked as we had not been that close and was still developing a friendship. I was not happy about that request as it was putting me on the spot and I have had bad experiences of lending money out and not getting it back. Bare in mind that I have now retired and have to live of what I have. I told her this and that any spare money was in a bank account that I cannot access for a while. A couple of days later she apologised and said she did not know why she had asked me. A couple of weeks after that her and her partner where in my area and I invited them for their lunch and went and picked them up. They were having a look around my home complimenting me on certain furnishings that I have and then in the Bedroom they were looking at my wardrobes as I said I was looking to replace them. Her partner said...'we will have your old ones and started opening my wardrobes'!. Weeks later I have had a number of problems but she never phones me to see how I am...I have always telephoned her. Then she text me to tell me about a new research in treatment taken place in California that could help her. I read up on it and advised her to get in touch with the hospital involved to see if they could help. I said if so we could do a 'GO FUND ME' page to help with fees & cost and I would do that for her...which she agreed..... So I encouraged her to take things further. She needed forms and information printing off from the hospital involved. I told her I had a Printer and would print the forms off for her...which where many pages. A number of occasions after that she emailed me then with...can you print off this shopping voucher etc etc...not do you mind? I was talking to my aunty one day about this situation and she said to me...this girl is taking the piss with you...you are being too soft with her. ...would she do this for you? Her last email for me to photocopy stuff for her...my ink ran out and so I just photocopied what I could...which wasn't everything. I was then travelling in total approx 4O miles to give it to her. At that point I was going through very upsetting times...but she never picked a phone up to see if I was ok...only once on Facebook. I never heard from her then. Today I received a whatsapp message asking me to contribute to a GO FUND ME page that her sons partner has now done for her!! She has give no thought to my feelings as I was meant to do this for her and I was the one to encourage her to take things further over new treatment. If she had just messaged me to say...'I know you were gonna do a GO FUND ME PAGE but my sons partner wants to do it...I would have been ok about it. But to say nothing but ask me to contribute...I am upset ...and feel like she has taken me for a fool. Is it me being too sensitive?, Should I ignore the unbalance in our friendship because of her illness? All I want out of life is a bit of respect and to be treated fairly and not be taken for a fool...Is that asking for too much? Thanks in advance for any replies. xxx

donna1964 Fri 15-May-20 10:05:56

vampirequeen... I have now unfriended her, blocked her. xx

donna1964 Fri 15-May-20 10:02:44

gillT7... the son would not of thought to do a Go FUND ME page...he is a selfish brat! He gives his mum a terrible time...even now when she does not need it. It was his wife who has done the GO FUND ME page. But what happens is I tend to show people up...honestly not meaning too and never my intention. I think probably someone has said to her when she has mentioned what I was going to do for her...that it should be a family member who should that for you...although they would not have give it a thought to do. And then she has mentioned it in the family and the daughter in law has taken over. And honestly that would have been fine...but, she has never contacted me to tell me that or do you mind? The first I knew is when I have received a message on whatsapp asking me to contribute to the GO FUND ME PAGE.

donna1964 Fri 15-May-20 09:53:53

Hithere... the lady in question did not have a very good start in life. In tragic circumstances she became the Mother figure to her younger brothers when she was 17... literally bringing them up herself. Through life that role she has carried on even with her partners family...everyone turns to her for help. But when it comes to her own problems etc she does not get the support & thought she deserves. Which usually happens when you come across as the strong one...people just think you can manage your own problems and that is not always the case. Things that she has told me in the latter weeks her immediate family could have done more for her and haven't. But, she has played a part in it herself as she has brought up her children to just think about themselves and not give her thought...now that she needs it most. The buying of the bed was a one off ...something bought for her for a change although it was not my responsibility.
To be honest with myself...my friendships have always started based on someone struggling and me helping them. The relationship then continues unbalanced based on what I can do for them and not getting much back. I am the eldest of 7 children and I did not have much of a childhood. Used as mum's support system...seeing and doing things I should never have done as a child. My needs as a child where never met...it was disfunctional.

vampirequeen Thu 14-May-20 15:37:58

She's a con artist. Kick her into touch. She took advantage of your kind nature.

GillT57 Thu 14-May-20 13:24:25

A best friend would be very uncomfortable accepting the things you have purchased for this couple, interesting comment as it mirrors my thoughts. Perhaps they do not want your help? Maybe they asked the son to set up the Go Fund Me Page as they feel you are intruding, offering more than they want, rushing over with photocopied pieces of paper....please do not take this the wrong way, you are obviously a kind person, but maybe they wish to deal with her illness by themselves and not try to make you feel better by accepting gifts, some of which they may not even want? Maybe just leave this family to deal with the woman's illness in private?

Hithere Thu 14-May-20 13:15:42

Donna

You are getting mad at the wrong people

You wrote
"I remember years ago a lady I met said to me...' I and others could quite easily take you for granted.'"
So this may have happen before and she was warning you?
You are making the same mistake again

"Over the last two years I have caught up with a lady I went to school with on Facebook."
Even though you met this lady 40 years ago, you only reconnected 2 years ago.
How well do you really know her?

It is not your fault she has cancer. Why are you trying to overcompensate for something it is not your fault?

Why do you feel you must give your all to people ? That is not how friendship works.

You are in a fixed income throwing out money that should not be invested in trying to buy other's affections

Dont mask it under "I am generous".
There is something very dysfunctional under the surface and it shows in all the red flags in your posts.

You deserve friends who love for who you are, not what you give them.

A best friend would be very uncomfortable accepting the things you have purchased for this couple.

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 22:39:52

sodapop... It wasn't someone I barely knew..and I wasn't giving the run of my home!

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 22:36:36

Bluebelle... it was the idea she was continuing to send me emails for further photocopying...nothing to do with what I said i'd copy for her and not asking if I mind. No consideration and at that point I was coming to the point of enough is enough... your now taking the piss!

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 22:28:40

TrendyNannie6...thank you for your kind words. I take so much and then there is no going back. I think what has kept me there is the fact that she has got Cancer...and struggled to turn my back on someone with this terrible illness. But, it does not give anyone an excuse to treat someone who is good to you badly. I do struggle with why if someone is good to you would you want to treat them so bad. Maybe it's because I haven't had many people do good by me...and I do appreciate and dont forget them people when they do good by me.

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 22:16:28

Lemsip...you are right there...I do get very involved. I have been told I am a very good person to have around if things go wrong in people's lives. I suppose I try to rescue them from all pain & hurt and stress. Really, I am acting out what I would have liked others to do for me when in need of help & support in my life but never got it. I never got my needs met as a child and do not have a supportive family.

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 22:07:22

Hithere... I have known the lady since school...40 years. I was taking up a friendship with her again. I was supporting someone who genuinely does have Cancer for a second time...there is no lie there. I live in a bungalow...I wasn't showing them around my home. My bedroom door was open which was facing the entrance to my home. They commented on how nice my bedroom was and liked the Wardrobes. Only then did I say I was looking to replace the wardrobes. Her partner then asked what I was going to do with the present wardrobes and I said I was going to put them on the tip...at that point he said they would have them. But, I did not like him opening the wardrobe nearest the door.
As for the GO FUND ME PAGE she needed to request releasing her hospital papers and forward them onto California first...she told me she was not ready for the GO FUND ME PAGE yet until the hospital in California would accept her...also there would be problems with flying to California what with the Coronavirus and being let into the country... This was only last week we spoke about it.
I would have no problem with someone else doing the GO FUND ME page if she had just had the decency
to let me know and consider my feelings. Believe me I am no fool... I am kind and helpful...sadly people mistake that for a weekness and get a shock when they cross me. I was asking for people's opinion on it...not to be judged.

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 21:37:29

Aggie...I am not hoodwinking anyone.

donna1964 Wed 13-May-20 21:35:35

I am not hoodwinking anyone.

sodapop Wed 13-May-20 17:48:16

I do find the post a bit odd I have to say. Seems strange to give so much to someone you barely know. Then allowing them the run of your house when they visited donna1964 just asking for trouble.
I have to agree with hithere

Grannyjay Wed 13-May-20 16:43:04

She is no friend of yours and deep down you know that. I think I would struggle to contain my anger if she treated me like that. You seem a kind person and maybe you lack confidence and seek approval that you are kind. It’s a sad world that we have many who just are takers and not givers.

Toadinthehole Wed 13-May-20 16:38:03

There are two types of people......givers and takers. It sounds like you’ve stumbled upon a taker. I would cut all contact now, just explaining that you’ve done what you can, but don’t want to continue. If she doesn’t accept/ understand, just show her your post and all the responses. There are plenty of caring people out there, you’ll spot them because they won’t constantly be asking for things.

annodomini Wed 13-May-20 16:28:26

Haven't you noticed that she only contacts you when she wants something? She really saw you coming!

Hithere Wed 13-May-20 15:42:42

The more I think about it, they are not taking advantage of you.

They are just following your lead.

AGAA4 Wed 13-May-20 15:18:40

Many of us go through serious illness. My friends brought me flowers and chocolate cake and I would never have accepted anything more than that as I believe most wouldn't.

These people are users. They are only interested in what you can give them. Have nothing more to do with them. They are playing on your good nature.

Redhead56 Wed 13-May-20 14:41:23

Having an illness does not give someone a licence to use people. Clearly they have both taken you for a ride. Don't reply to any messages but if they do manage to catch up with you tell them you are busy. You have personal things to sort out and that's your priority. Get on with your own life and don't give them a second thought they don't deserve it. As others have said your kind nature will be appreciated by genuine people.

BlueBelle Wed 13-May-20 14:36:15

Reading your post again I find it even more strange ... she contracted cancer around the time you picked up the friendship !! did you ever see the bed in situ that you bought For her .....she had heard of someone selling one, how lucky it was still available a week later when you sent her the money
You were showing them around you home and in your bedroom !!! Is that normal, perhaps it’s me but I ve never taken people round to look at my bedroom, if they ve called in for coffee or a meal. He, the partner opened your wardrobes? didn’t that alert you to the type of people they were
You have spent out large chunks of money but worry about a bit of photocopying, none of this makes sense to an outsider

I m afraid I m very suspicious of this ladies illness

Are you still looking at the thread Donna?

TrendyNannie6 Wed 13-May-20 14:34:01

You are obviously a softhearted caring lovely person, who has been taken for a ride, you bought her a bed and that was very kind of you, it seems you are one of life’s givers, which is all very well on some aspects but this has gone to far, and these people are really taking you for a mug, I would cut them out of your life, they are not friends, they are users Donna1964. You don’t need people in your life like this

seacliff Wed 13-May-20 14:32:53

aggie, I wondered that too. Wasn't sure.

Donna I don't know if you always go around buying expensive presents for people you hardly know. But yes, you are absolutely being ripped off. Walk away, have nothing more to do with them.

GillT57 Wed 13-May-20 14:20:30

You are obviously a generous person and this 'old friend' and her partner have taken advantage, although it has to be said that buying a bed for someone you barely know is a bit odd. I would stop contacting these people, they don't see you as a friend. Maybe take your caring nature to somewhere it won't be abused? Volunteer for a day centre or a charity.

quizqueen Wed 13-May-20 13:55:41

This woman and her husband are what mumsnet call CFs, and, I'm afraid I would have to say you have been taken for a fool and a sucker for a hard luck story. Find better friends who are not just users.