BBQ lockdown

They’re risking a second wave, which could kill us all.
Here’s a painting by Juan Lucena, showing grandchildren who didn’t get to say goodbye to their grandparents due to Covid 19 ??

Absolutely disgraceful! All those people on the beach in Dorset yesterday, then herded together like cattle so that the air ambulance could take away irresponsible idiots who thought it would great fun to jump off the cliffs. Unbelievable! Second wave on its way I am afraid. I am pleased that here in Wales we have taken the slow and steady route, only travel 5 miles to visit friends and family. Which for me means we can’t see our daughter and granddaughters as they live 25 miles away! But yes, I am pleased. Hopefully next review in 3 weeks will bring us closer. Have a good day everyone. ??x

We will use our gas barbie with lid again next week. This thread seems like a load of old codgers with twitching net curtains and a lot of tutting. I love to sit outside on a lovely sunny evening enjoying a glass of wine and having prepared the salad DH cooks the food. I will add that his meaty foodstuffs are never undercooked and my veggie burgers are cooked to perfection. I love to hear people and children enjoying their barbecues in the garden and the only problem we have with smoke is the smoke that comes from the bonfires wafting across our gardens from the allotments that back onto our gardens. I could complain about my at risk elderly neighbours who have had more visitors in their garden during lock down than they usually have.

Boris released lockdown for political reasons imho not because it’s safe. So no Nanderin I don’t think you are BU.
Boris should pass a law making lids on bbq’s compulsory. Filling other people’s houses with smoke is so selfish. Smoked meat or charred meat is the most carcinogenic thing you can eat. Not to mention raw uncooked meat. Civilised behaviour is on a downward slope in some places in UK - I blame soap operas and Gordon Ramsey.

We also have a gas BBQ with lid which we used prior to the lockdown and will use for the first time this year next week. Can't be as offensive as neighbour's smelly bonfire.
I think if we've reached the stage where we're counting how many in a neighbour's garden and contemplating calling the police on them, then we have reached a sorry state. Perhaps worry about those travelling to and from work on public transport, not able to socially distance and have work places where social distancing isn't possible, rather than whether or not your neighbours have one extra person in the garden.

I did have my son and grandson in my garden yesterday, as grandson going home to today. He lives about 200 miles away, and he stayed with his dad near me for all of lockdown. We won't see him nor now until August. But he's 13 we social distanced. He did have to use toilet But I'd sprayed it all before and after they left. And all the chairs they sat on. To be truthful I felt safer than when I've been out for my walks.

I’d have been tempted to set a garden sprinkler going so that part of the fallout was in their garden.

From sunny mid-Wales,
We are all still alive to enjoy the weather!!! Why moan? There are a lot of people who would like to be out here enjoying the sunshine too!

When you plan to move house, always inspect the neighbours!
Maybe they should have invited Nanderin!

I have never understood the obsession with barbecues and I have more than once refused invitations to join in one of these rituals. Standing in the open in what are often quite chilly evenings to endure the smoke and smell of often under-cooked food is not my idea of a good evening. If you must be outdoors, why not cook your food indoors and then carry it outside?

some of my neighbours also having barbecues daily, have to stay inside and shut the windows, one neighbour had a party all day Thursday day time then again Friday until later in the evening, children, visitors, barbecue and lots of noise, they have health problems themselves just dont no what they were thinking, its inevitable that numbers of covid 19 deaths and illness will go up if we dont stick the the rules

Whether the barbecue is today, or tomorrow, hardly is going to matter, is it? Also whether it's six, or ten people there is not going to make much difference. When you think of the rush hour on trains now, that is what I call untenable. Social distancing is what is important.

If you don't like other people's barbecues is another matter. I hate the smell of them but people like to have them on a summer's day and they are entitled to have them in their own garden. I'd hate to think that we've turned into a police state by snitching on our neighbours either.

Let's be realistic. This virus will be with us forever now and the only cure is a vaccine, which I hope will be found by the autumn.

I'm well over seventy and in the highly vulnerable category, live on my own and would prefer it if others consider what they are doing. However, it's lovely weather and folk are trying to make the best of things.

As with anything, there are ways....and ways...of doing things. For many people, lockdown has hardly altered the way they behave whilst others have adhered to government advice to the letter. I don’t think there’s anything you can do...but it does understandably lead to feelings running high. About the bbqs, I don’t think Boris has the slightest notion really of how close many people live to each other and the implications. Our neighbour has the most disgusting and too frequent bbqs that cause us to shut our doors and windows, whereas if I say so myself, if we have the odd one, you’d barely know, as its slow and discreet. Seems some people need to have fast, furious and suffocating bbqs every day ...it’s not good.?

People have been socialising right from the start of lockdown. Grandparents seeing grandchildren, families having elderly vulnerable relatives round etc and then saying isn’t it awful the lockdown and not seeing relatives! Or saying I’ve been naughty and caught up with .... We haven’t and it’s made me cross but also depressed. Tomorrow I will see my daughter and grandchildren for the first time and I am really nervous. Going to spend today cleaning the bathroom. People have had BBQ’s not many have been charcoal though.

Prof Van Tam said something that made sense yesterday - it’s now ok to meet in a gathering of 6 keeping social distancing. But to be sensible. If you see 5 people in the morning, 5 different in the afternoon and another 5 in the evening that is a lot of people and the potential for catching Covid is far greater than keeping to just 5 for the day. He said we had to be sensible and use common sense. Mmmm not everyone has common sense?

One of our neighbours has had BBQ's every weekend since the beginning of the lockdown. They have three grown-up children who turn up every w/end with partners and children. Great fun is had by all ... except for the neighbours! Once the BBQ get's going (with the help of some kind of very smelly lighter fluid?) all you hear is people round about forcefully closing windows and doors. We do the same and I swear our doors get banged louder every week! We are so fed up with it we are just about ready to turn the hosepipe on them!

In the meantime, we and several other neighbours have been shielding at home, not seeing friends or family and feeling pretty low for much of the time. My husband is waiting for an operation which was cancelled at the end of March, it is all very depressing.

Now foolish people are chucking themselves off the cliffs at Durdle Dore with hundreds of others crowding onto small areas so that rescue helicopters can land on the beach. Plus that poor man in America and the riots what on earth is happening to the world? Sorry to go on but honestly it is enough to make you cry or get very angry which is how I’m feeling right now. But it's OK we can all go out on Monday not that anything has really changed. The virus hasn't gone but that's fine off you go there plenty of hospital beds available at the moment!

I didnt keep cleaner on for lockdown as we all have 'underlying medical issues' so thought it safer not to have anyone else in our home.

I've just arranged for a date for my cleaner to start coming again, but as she's had to take other new clients on to keep afloat in meantime,she cant fit me till nearly end of june- ok i guess, BUT by sound of all the mingling already we will back on bl**dy lockdown again by then!! It makes me so angry- why cant they wait? Or at least stick to guidance given?! I've really struggled without my cleaner as I've got very severe osteoarthritis, & my sons try but both have disability so cleanings been 'sporadic' when we need it most! But at this rate we'll all end up on lockdown again and for the rest of our lives! Why cant they have some sense!

And have you seen social distancing at the beach!!!!! Flabbergasted. Idiots all of them.

I too am infuriated by selfish people who do not care. It’s all very well for people to ignore when others break the rules, but it’s going to be all of us who suffer again when the R rate rises, and it will. It’ll be even longer before we can get back to some degree of normality and more tragic deaths. I am the manager of a care home and have been 100% doing the right thing. We are all in this together. It’s only our behaviour that can pull us out of this awful situation.

I don’t think YABU to wish it wasn’t happening so close to your house but I’m with Bluebelle too. I want to stay friends with my neighbours and if I don’t look and don’t count, it won’t bother me.

The good news is that keeping your windows shut when the weather is hot makes sense as it keeps the house cool. We have windows open early morning and late evening, but mostly closed during the day when it’s hot.
Being angry is bad for your BP. Close the windows and try to stay calm.

I have a suspicion allowing bbqs is so that more people stay at home in their garden instead of packing the beaches where it is impossible for flouting of social distancing to be policed.

The lighter fuel of BBQs makes me heave a d the people at the bottom if our garden have them regularly.
The gentleman of the house yesterday spent a good few hours having a very loud conversation with someone guffawing and swearing making it very uncomfortable to be able to relax in the garden.
I know we can do as we please in our own homes but please be aware when outside that not everyone wants to listen to your conversations and crude comments. Rant over

From looking at the packed beaches over the last few days it seems that many people are stupid and also selfish. Yes, they may be younger but by crowding anywhere with no social distancing its just asking for trouble and the virus to spread. These people do not think of others ...anyone over 45 could be at extra risk. I suppose your neighbour is of the same ilk but it you stay inside then at least they are not spreading their germs to you.

harrigran,

I so agree,, why the need to follow the Americans in this?

I like my food cooked well, and eat at table! LOL

the problem as I see it is that not only putting others at risk in various ways, the R number will increase and we will ALL be locked up again, or dead... take your pick!

Yes Rosalyn69, IF a bbq's done properly, how it should be, they are good, but trouble is most folk don't let the charcoal etc. burn off first- as your'e supposed to- they add food too soon, that's why they get all that smoke- and still they carry on regardless! Folk near me are always lighting blinking fires in gardens even when its not a bbq! (Burning rubbish/garden rubbish i think?) I'm sick of never being able to hang washing out on a lovely warm day- or having to bring it in when the smell of smoke starts! No Nandarin- you are not being unreasonable at all!

I came back from my cycle ride yesterday evening, and passed by a recreational ground that appeared to have every available teenager from the whole of the county on it.
Barbecues were everywhere, and they were all enjoying themselves without a care in the world, or any social distancing whatsoever.
So: eight people next door? That's nothing to what is going on elsewhere.......