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ExD Fri 02-Jul-21 09:58:04

I'm beginning to feel how I imagine German people felt when Hitler came to power, I'm afraid to speak of my feelings.
Emmerdale and Corrie both force fed us 'gay' propaganda this last week in a blatant attempt to make same sex love the new norm.
Whatever you say - it's not the way the majority of the population behave (though many do) and although I'm content for people to follow their natural inclinations in this department - why do TV programmers force feed it to us?
I mean, how many gays can one village (or street) contain as a percentage?
I know I'll be shot down for being homophobic, but I don't feel I dare criticise this policy - which makes me uneasy. I feel the Thought Police are here, and soon our neighbours and family will be encouraged to inform on those who speak out.
This is not an invitation for you to sling mud at me and call me a horrible person, although you can if you wish, I'd seriously like to know how many other people felt uncomfortable with the storylines, and the self congratulatory trend of the writers.

Luckylegs Fri 02-Jul-21 19:22:12

I totally agree that there are far too many gays in Corrie. My brother in law is gay, been with his man for 40 years at least. They have both worked in TV and a large proportion of the lovely people who are working on TV/Corrie are gay too. It’s just ridiculous how many people on such a small street are supposed to be gay, it’s actually laughable.

I know I’m going to come across as a prude and I’m not. I know the point people are making about it being a soap and not real life but that’s what Corrie started off like, everyday life. Particularly with the 7.30 episode, I feel sorry for young children and their parents who will have to explain all the various permutations of sexuality portrayed. There’s no need for it! I feel quite prudish about two men kissing so vigorously on camera. We don’t need to have it shoved in our faces quite so much, subtlety could be used. This could also go for any sexual shenanigans of any kind!

PinkCakes Fri 02-Jul-21 19:23:57

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harrigran Fri 02-Jul-21 19:48:57

The number of gays in soap operas are out of proportion I believe.
I don't have any gay relatives or friends in fact I do not know anyone who is gay probably because they all live in Coronation Street.

Doodledog Fri 02-Jul-21 20:10:00

harrigran, You probably do, you know.

It is perfectly possible (in fact quite likely) that you know at least one person who is gay, but private about it. Many gay people, particularly from older generations, were brought up to think it was shameful, and are very reluctant to let others know, particularly those who come across as disapproving.

Flossiebo Fri 02-Jul-21 20:10:29

Really @harrigran-????

I don't know any people of colour. Perhaps they don't exist.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

PaperMonster Fri 02-Jul-21 20:12:06

We rarely watch TV so not seen Corrie for years. But I found the comment about parents having to explain about sexuality to children by a pp quite odd. I have a 10 year old. I don’t have to explain it to her. To her it’s normal for people to kiss other people whatever their sex. It’s a non-issue when it’s normalised!

Alegrias1 Fri 02-Jul-21 20:20:48

ExD

Lol Alegrais1 it was foolish of me to compare my thoughts with other regimes, but it didn't stop me hesitating about posting them.
Still, its kept us amused for a while.

grin

25Avalon Fri 02-Jul-21 20:25:20

Lucca

Alegrias1

25Avalon grin

How about a Pride march for pedants? I'm picky and I'm proud. wink

??

M0nica Fri 02-Jul-21 20:38:41

harrigran, I do not know anyone who has had COVID, but I do not think that that means the figures for those who have had it is overstated.

As I have said before gay people are dispropotionately represented in the creative industries and in cities like London and just as you can talk about not knowing any gay people, with the inference that they are few and far between, so those in the media bubble can over estimate the number there are in the whole population.

Summerlove Fri 02-Jul-21 20:44:09

PaperMonster

We rarely watch TV so not seen Corrie for years. But I found the comment about parents having to explain about sexuality to children by a pp quite odd. I have a 10 year old. I don’t have to explain it to her. To her it’s normal for people to kiss other people whatever their sex. It’s a non-issue when it’s normalised!

I think the problem is that people don’t want it normalised

Alegrias1 Fri 02-Jul-21 20:57:12

They are closing the roof at Wimbledon so to fill the time I worked something out.

Kinsey said about 10% of the population was gay. There are 80 characters currently listed on the Corrie cast list and 9 of them seem to be gay.

Pretty realistic, I'd say grin

PinkCakes Fri 02-Jul-21 21:00:56

Riverwalk Oh, I'm sorry - I didn't realise your opinion was more worthwhile than mine

muffinthemoo Fri 02-Jul-21 21:26:49

Summerlove

PaperMonster

We rarely watch TV so not seen Corrie for years. But I found the comment about parents having to explain about sexuality to children by a pp quite odd. I have a 10 year old. I don’t have to explain it to her. To her it’s normal for people to kiss other people whatever their sex. It’s a non-issue when it’s normalised!

I think the problem is that people don’t want it normalised

Pretending that no gay people exist doesn’t make any of us stop existing.

Maggiemaybe Fri 02-Jul-21 22:08:50

Alegrias1

They are closing the roof at Wimbledon so to fill the time I worked something out.

Kinsey said about 10% of the population was gay. There are 80 characters currently listed on the Corrie cast list and 9 of them seem to be gay.

Pretty realistic, I'd say grin

Put like that, Alegrias, it seems fair enough. I hadn’t realised the cast list was so long!

Summerlove Fri 02-Jul-21 22:22:50

muffinthemoo

Summerlove

PaperMonster

We rarely watch TV so not seen Corrie for years. But I found the comment about parents having to explain about sexuality to children by a pp quite odd. I have a 10 year old. I don’t have to explain it to her. To her it’s normal for people to kiss other people whatever their sex. It’s a non-issue when it’s normalised!

I think the problem is that people don’t want it normalised

Pretending that no gay people exist doesn’t make any of us stop existing.

I’m so sorry.
I hope you didn’t take my comment to agree with not normalising!

muffinthemoo Fri 02-Jul-21 22:32:37

summerlove no no don’t apologise! I was merely adding to your observation that “not wanting it normalised” is not going to make any difference. Criminalisation and discrimination against LGBT folk has been a feature of society in the UK until very recently… and yet people went right on being gay, almost like other people’s opinions aren’t capable of changing your sexuality…

Doodledog Fri 02-Jul-21 22:39:32

Quite.

I have never understood why anyone would want to control the sexuality of others, but it's a pointless exercise anyway.

You can imprison people, have them stoned to death, ban their poems or films, send them to camps - it won't work. You can drive sexuality underground (and this applies to gay, bi or straight people) by passing laws about who can have sex with whom, according to colour, sex, gender, age, marital status, anything you like, but people are the way they are made, and that is not subject to law.

Trying to control the sex lives of others ruins lives, but for some reason there have always been those who want to do it.

AmberSpyglass Fri 02-Jul-21 22:49:43

I hardly know any straight people. But apparently you all bloody exist, since you won’t shut up about it.

maddyone Fri 02-Jul-21 22:54:22

I’m so very thankful that my son and his partner can lead normal, happy lives together. I’m glad they don’t have to live through what gay people had to put up with not so many years ago. I think my heart would have broken if that were the case. Please remember folks that every gay person is somebody’s child, somebody’s brother or sister, somebody’s grandchild, and also an auntie/uncle, a nephew/niece. They are loved and cared about the same as everyone else.

vegansrock Sat 03-Jul-21 05:31:26

Gay people are still taunted, bullied at school and beaten up. There is a reason why few gay footballers come out. If gay relationships becomes normalised then that’s all to the good imho.
Corrie is a drama and not real life. You don’t have to watch it. It’s not Nazi Germany or China.

MissChateline Sat 03-Jul-21 06:53:22

I actually live, in the town known as the gay capital of the UK. It is often cited that house buyers pay a premium to live in such a gay friendly town. I can not imagine children here having to have different types of relationships or sexuality explained. There are children at all of the schools who will have 2 mums or 2 dads. There are couples of all ages from young new to the scene and setting up home together to elderly couples who have been together for decades. Just like real life everywhere I guess.
I am so grateful to both gay men and women in the past who suffered so badly for their homosexuality but their belief in themselves and their commitment made it possible for couples like myself, my wife and my lesbian neighbours to live “normal” lives and just be part of the community possible.

NanKate Sat 03-Jul-21 07:06:22

Well said Maddyone. ?

Lucca Sat 03-Jul-21 07:12:07

And a lovely town it is too Miss Chateline!

PaperMonster Sat 03-Jul-21 08:42:22

Muffinmoo and Summerlove -your points absolutely! As VegansRock points out children are still bullied because of their sexuality. We have a young man nearby who is going through this and self-harming as a result, and in turn also bullying others outside of school. Because it still isn’t normalised. And TV programmes can help to normalise it.

geekesse Sat 03-Jul-21 10:25:06

Nonogran

Is anyone interested in a “Heterosexual Pride” parade?
Let’s broadcast our sexual preferences far & wide.

Ha! You could call it a ‘Prude Parade’. smile