Afraid to speak out.

Everyone's forgot about Roy and Hayley. I know they were not gay but she was a transgender woman and that was a good storyline. I really liked the storyline and it was done sympathetically and well presented. As a television soap I liked the characters of Roy and Hayley and it was sad to see Roy lose
the love of his life.
The gays in Corrie don't bother me that much, we know they are in our communities and live their lives the same as others. Two of my gay friends have moved some distance away now to the coast so I do not know any others.
To see two men kissing does make me feel a bit funny but that's what they do so it is what it is.
I read that Carla is going to have a fling with another woman in Corrie but can't remember who they said it was with.

Perhaps the problem is the way you are dividing sexual relationships as normal and not normal. As soon as you do that, you are in danger of equating ‘normal’ with ‘acceptable’ and anything that isn’t ‘normal’ becomes unacceptable.

I prefer to think in terms of ‘some people have opposite sex relationships, some people have same-sex relationships’. I believe that there are more opposite sex couples than same-sex couples, but neither is ‘normal’ or ‘not normal’.

TV has shied away from including same-sex relationships in the past, which made those who have same-sex relationships feel excluded and marginalised. I think it entirely right that there is a genuine attempt to show a wider range of human relationships on mainstream TV now. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Your prejudices, your choice. I hate soaps anyway.

JaneJudge

Interesting re the pigeons and the correct conditions btw. Ours favour a particular fence at 4pm and they even seem to invite friends

Pigeon dogging, hilarious ?

Everyone's forgot about Roy and Hayley. I know they were not gay but she was a transgender woman and that was a good storyline. I really liked the storyline and it was done sympathetically and well presented.

Yes, it was and I don't think I've watched it since those days.

JaneJudge I did mention to DH that if we have food shortages there are always the pigeons ........

As has been said, no idea how not liking particularly storylines in a popular soap is in any way like Hitlers Germany, or Tiananmen Square. That is over-thinking to the extreme.

Soaps are not social commentaries, they are there to entertain and amuse. Writers have a difficult enough job to keep viewers interested. Mind you, part of that interest is surely to give plenty of material for us all to criticise.

So, with regard to Corrie, which I do watch, that individual room at the local hospital, to which any resident of the cobbles goes . The number of residents in a very local prison at any one time, the way ambulances arrive to anything in Coronation Street, within minutes of being called, the local GP practice which never has any wait for an appointment, and Doctors who will come out at a moments notice. Schools which seem to have totally different holiday dates to the rest of the country, jobs which appear so easily - all within the street, banks that are willing to hand over large sums of cash (in used bank notes) without any prior notice or checking. Really - the sexual partnerships of a few of the residents is minor compaired to all of this.

Yes, I know people still find it difficult to accept gay relationships, but that is their privildege and no-one is going to prevent them saying that. Provided, of course, they do actually insult in any way people who are gay.

Is anyone interested in a “Heterosexual Pride” parade?
Let’s broadcast our sexual preferences far & wide.

Interestingly very few male footballers have come out as gay. Justin Fashnau was the first and sadly committed suicide. (Alegrias will correct me if I am wrong). If this storyline helps young footballers be able to admit to and be accepted as gay it is good.

My feeling is we should all be accepted for what we are. Straight people get on with life without having to mention their private lives, and gay people should be able to do the same if they want to which most I know do.

25Avalon

How about a Pride march for pedants? I'm picky and I'm proud.

ExD I agree. I haven't watched any of the soaps for years now, as I felt they were all too "politically correct" with their stories of gays, domestic abuse, drugs, rapes, etc. I want to be entertained by programmes, not subject to the misery that happens in life.

How is it Gay Pride lasts for a whole month, yet Remembrance Day gets a couple of minutes' silence once a year?

Don’t watch it if it offends.

How is it Gay Pride lasts for a whole month, yet Remembrance Day gets a couple of minutes' silence once a year

That's such a stupid analogy - a bit like asking why Lent lasts for 40 days yet Bonfire Night is only one night; they are nothing to do with each other!

All the gay couples I know are just living together quite happily and normally and nobody else bats an eyelid.

Someone earlier on was talking about gay vicars and parishioners not approving of them having lots of different partners. This is another cliche: that gay, men in particular, are all at it like rabbits with anyone they can find.

They are no different from anyone else and nearly all the ones I know are in longstanding stable partnerships. There are plenty of sexually incontinent heterosexuals as well and you only have to look to the current government to find them.

Yes agree too many in one soap. However I love it when Sean spins round on his heel, head held and does a huge flounce! Always makes me laugh.

Alegrias1

25Avalon

How about a Pride march for pedants? I'm picky and I'm proud.

Oh yes please to Pride for pedants. I would be able to relax safe in the knowledge that the apostrophes would be in the right place on the banners.

It's always possible to speak your feelings. Of course, it's also possible people might not agree with you.

Watching a soap if you like the story line is perhaps a waste of your valuable time. Watching a soap if you don't like the story line is almost certainly a waste of your valuable time.

when was he in it and who was he gay with Maggie ?

He was Gail’s dad. He didn’t know that until 2008 (I’d to google that ) when he got in touch with Audrey again to tell her that his husband had died. I know it’s a long time since (he was in for 2 years), but he’s one of my favourite characters because of the banter with David and with Blanche, who was convinced he and Ken were an item, as they’d go to plays and art exhibitions together. Sorry, I’ve digressed, but I think the Blanche days were Corrie’s finest.

Newatthis

Don’t watch it if it offends.

That's not the point.

The Hayley & Roy story lines were some of the best I have seen in a soap. Roy continues to be one the best actors with his understated performances.

I love Sean's flounces as well grannyrebel always make me smile.

I watched and yes it was a bit over the top. However I think most gay people
will appreciate what the producer was trying to do, ie educate and dispel misconceptions. People who are gay have to consider very carefully where they holiday , if it is safe to hold hands in the street. Much of the disrespect gay people have to tolerate is based on fear of the unknown. We all need to think that gay person is hopefully a much loved family member who is just as easily upset or offended as we are. There is so much violence in our wonderful world , so much hate. I know homophobia surrounds us despite the amazing changes that have happened! We have come a long way, but not there yet!

Lol Alegrais1 it was foolish of me to compare my thoughts with other regimes, but it didn't stop me hesitating about posting them.
Still, its kept us amused for a while.

grannyrebel7

Yes agree too many in one soap. However I love it when Sean spins round on his heel, head held and does a huge flounce! Always makes me laugh.

I love that too grannyrebel. Coronation Street has always had an element of humour and Sean provides that at the moment. We’ve had Bet Lynch, Norris, Rita, Steve, and a few other ‘comic’ characters. I’m not worried about the number of gays in the programme, but like everything else in Corrie, there’s lots of them. Everyone in Corrie has been to prison, had sex with all their neighbours, been in a serious accident, been raped or abused in some way, and all the children go their bedrooms and come downstairs five years later having morphed into a completely different person. The babies are always where exactly when their parents are in the pub or Bistro or at work, or out doing whatever? We see Daniel but never see his baby anymore. Where is it? And when a character leaves the area they book a plane ticket and leave by taxi all in about three hours, never to be seen again!

Anyway, one of my sons is gay. He lives with his partner and their adopted child, our little grandson. They live quietly, work professional jobs, have lots of friends, all heterosexual. They’re not at all camp and do not have limp wrists. You probably wouldn’t know they were gay unless you’d been told. They’re part of our family. That’s all there is to say really.

BlueBelle

Oh do come on how many gays are there in Corrie ? the vicar and his lover plus his ex lover and the footballer not a huge proportion at all …… have I missed any out ? compared to how many go to hospital every week and how many go to prison and how many find jobs as soon as they lose one How the heck does this equate to Hitler blimey a jump and 6 there

Sean! Sophie ! Paul !

Alegrias1

25Avalon

How about a Pride march for pedants? I'm picky and I'm proud.

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Going slightly off piste Rd the pigeons, always at in on our she roof, and the other day one was ‘ romancing ‘ a dead one the. At had got before we removed it- have they no shame!!!! As for the soaps , couldn’t give a monkeys how many gays are in them, given up watching due to abysmal plots.

Not sure what’s going on with the typos - the dead one a cat had got was being ‘ romanced’ !!

Oh do come on how many gays are there in Corrie ? the vicar and his lover plus his ex lover and the footballer not a huge proportion at all …… have I missed any out ?

As I said
Paul, Sean, Billy, Todd, James, James's boyfriend . Too many for one street.