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Scotish midwifery to ban The word “Mother”

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Poppyjo Wed 27-Oct-21 23:40:14

I am sad to see the Scottish intend to ban the word “Mother” from maternity units, leaflets etc.,

Who on earth comes up with these ideas? I would think most of us are proud to be mothers and the word always makes one feel safe and secure and loved. I always as a child knew when my mother was around she would make everything alright. I know not every child is so lucky as I was, But please don’t ban the word “Mother”. What do other Grans think?

Chewbacca Thu 28-Oct-21 18:08:52

Doodledog and so many other GNetters, have posted on all of the threads about the gradual erosion of women, and their rights, for many months now. They've been shouted down, ridiculed and sneered at for being hysterical feminists, transphobic or TERFS. Doodledog has never once lost her temper, resorted to personal or generic insults, nor has she claimed faux outrage and claimed that she's been personally attacked in order that the discussion is deflected towards her personally.
So much good, verifiable and reliable data has been provided on those previous threads. There is a reason that younger women are becoming more and more alarmed at the slow, casual erasure of women, and all that they've fought for, over the last 100 years. Mumsnet's Feminism Boards has some articulate, well informed posters who provide each other with well researched data that simply provide an excellent resource of information. We don't appear to be able to have that forum in GN, which is our loss.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 17:55:56

Why use several words (person who …. etc) when one will do and we have perfectly adequate words already to cover all eventualities?

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 17:54:26

A mother is a female (XX chromosomes) who gives birth.

Someone who has not given birth can mother a child or children. In some cases that makes them the mother (adoptive).

Males (XY) can ‘mother’ children too though I’m not sure the verb to mother is needed here. Fathering seems to me to work very well too.

trisher Thu 28-Oct-21 17:49:29

Smileless2012

I don't agree that adding is necessarily tautology and I certainly don't agree that it is in this instance.

So is a mother not a person who gives birth? If she is it's tautology.

Smileless2012 Thu 28-Oct-21 17:46:12

I don't agree that adding is necessarily tautology and I certainly don't agree that it is in this instance.

Rosie51 Thu 28-Oct-21 17:14:55

trisher

I don't like adding in because it is tautology.

Isn't the risk of tautology a tiny price worth paying if it makes more people feel happy and included? Why the need to be so dogmatic?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 28-Oct-21 17:08:19

I think it will go on for longer than that Elegran. Not warming up yet …

Elegran Thu 28-Oct-21 16:57:45

I've just recounted and it was four capitals. The extra one was shouting emphasising that I had used no less than TWO prepositions with which to end a sentence - but was unrepentant.

Elegran Thu 28-Oct-21 16:45:21

Any bids on less than six hours?

Elegran Thu 28-Oct-21 16:43:04

An occasional use of capitals for a few single words in a post (three in my post above, eight in Paddyann's) isn't shouting. It is one of the ways of emphasising a word.

SHOUTING IS WHEN POSTERS USE THEM FOR WHOLE SENTENCES, LIKE THIS, OR FOR A WHOLE POST.

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Oct-21 16:28:56

Inkle I like that! grin

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:27:34

Alegrias1

I know Baggs. paddyann54 was accused of shouting and Elegran is praised for emphasising. Just wondering how to tell the difference.

I have an inkling.

Inkle away?. Enjoy!

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:26:49

Sometimes I use underlining, sometimes italics for emphasis. If I wanted to shout something you'd know by the diction, not by the case of the letters.

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Oct-21 16:26:29

I know Baggs. paddyann54 was accused of shouting and Elegran is praised for emphasising. Just wondering how to tell the difference.

I have an inkling.

trisher Thu 28-Oct-21 16:26:25

I don't like adding in because it is tautology.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:24:45

I am completely unfamiliar with paddyann's (or anyone else's) capitals.

I used a few myself recently, again for emphasis.

trisher Thu 28-Oct-21 16:24:37

Aveline

You're easily impressed Trisher. It's Elegran that always seems to speak the most sense as far as I can see.

I'm always impressed by reality*Aveline*. Speculation and forecasts of disaster don't impress me at all. They seldom materialise anyway.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:23:49

Alegrias1

Baggs

Elegran did not shout; she emphasised.

Whereas paddyann54 was shouting?

Well well.

You were the one making comparisons.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:23:17

Alegrias1

Baggs

Elegran did not shout; she emphasised.

Whereas paddyann54 was shouting?

Well well.

Nor imply anything.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:23:00

Alegrias1

Baggs

Elegran did not shout; she emphasised.

Whereas paddyann54 was shouting?

Well well.

I did not say anything about paddyann.

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Oct-21 16:20:17

Baggs

Elegran did not shout; she emphasised.

Whereas paddyann54 was shouting?

Well well.

Rosie51 Thu 28-Oct-21 16:15:13

Elegran very well summarised. Adding in wasn't liked by a couple of posters, most agreed it would be a totally inclusive way forward. As I recall the deleted thread went on to reference maternity units and real life situations and a poster said if you wanted to be referred to as 'mother' in those situations you could make that request.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:14:40

I think you need more than mere capitals for something to qualify as a shout.

Baggs Thu 28-Oct-21 16:13:39

Elegran did not shout; she emphasised.

Aveline Thu 28-Oct-21 16:09:12

You're easily impressed Trisher. It's Elegran that always seems to speak the most sense as far as I can see.