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CanadianGran Tue 09-Nov-21 17:50:31

A young woman at work was complaining to other co-workers of a customer-service line she was calling. It was to do with changing her drivers license to her new married name, and vaccine card being in her maiden name.

Anyway, the agent was having troubles, and as my coworker was telling the others, the 'woman was really old, no offense Canadian Gran', and carried on telling the story.

I jokingly said "hey, I'm not old!" and laughed, but now I really am feeling offended. I am the only grey-haired in the office. I thought that was rude, but not sure how to react.

Deep sigh and carry on. Ageism in the workplace.

Coco51 Wed 10-Nov-21 14:44:12

As a married 20 year old I thought that my office colleagues in their thirties were confimed spinsters! (I never said so).

Witzend Wed 10-Nov-21 14:55:59

Bazza

I was talking to a friend yesterday who I met when I was 24, the same age as her. We now both have children nearing 50 and we said when we met anyone of 50 was considered old and now we have children of that age. Impossible! When you’re young getting old is something that happens to other people.

I found a brilliant birthday card that said isn’t it strange being the same age as old people. I bought more than one.

I’d love to find a few of those birthday cards!

Because I do quite often think, ‘How can I possibly be 72? How did that happen?’ and I’m sure many others must feel the same, at any ‘older’ age.

ElaineI Wed 10-Nov-21 14:58:09

Wouldn't be offended at that and sympathies to the girl as dealing with DVLA a nightmare before Covid and now even worse.

Elegran Wed 10-Nov-21 15:01:23

NannyG123 You could have retorted "Oh, no, I've got another 25 years at least of my life left, that is the average life span. That is ten years longer than you have lived. You will be forty and past your best in 25 years time, but I'll still be around. See you then."

AnD1 Wed 10-Nov-21 15:08:15

When I was at work the Manager who was late 30s at the time referred to us as her ‘blue rinse brigade’. I really wished I could have taken her to task over it, we were incensed. Of course she is now as old as we were 50s.

lemsip Wed 10-Nov-21 15:22:35

oh dear, some people don't know what to take offence at next!

LuckyFour Wed 10-Nov-21 15:53:17

When I was 60 I was unsure about a new method of entering some info onto the computer system.. My manager at work said in front of other people "Oh (my name) you're losing the plot". This was said in a disparaging way suggesting I was going senile. I never forgave her for insulting me and after I left I never answered her calls or emails. I'm in my mid 70's now and still haven't 'lost the plot'!.

Rosiebee Wed 10-Nov-21 16:44:00

I remember finding out at the age of about 13, that my hero -David McCallum from the Man from Uncle - was 32. My heart broke, I couldn't believe he was THAT old. confused

lemsip Wed 10-Nov-21 16:56:45

I remember saying to a colleague when she said she was 44..... oh you don't look it. I was 32 at the time. 44 sounded so old. lol

Doodledog Wed 10-Nov-21 17:21:53

lemsip

oh dear, some people don't know what to take offence at next!

People are offended by what offends them. We are not all the same.

Happysexagenarian Wed 10-Nov-21 17:29:25

Chewbacca That's a good response!

Sandigold Wed 10-Nov-21 17:30:46

I think the comment was fairly thoughtless and not too much worth getting upset about per se... except that ageism is no joke. I particularly notice it in broadcasting. For example, it's about the only "ism" which comedians are free to display and no one bats an eye.

Delila Wed 10-Nov-21 17:37:38

Sadly “they are not long, the days of wine and roses”. I always hope young people enjoy their youth, with no thought of growing old.

jaylucy Wed 10-Nov-21 17:42:37

I once worked with someone that, at 17 she thought people over 21 were old and then when she got to 21 herself, old age crept up to 30!
I worked with people from the age of 16 up and there was only one person on the team older than me - as well as the fact that I was one of the longest serving. I really took no notice of the age differences, along with the differences in nationality or religion and if anyone commented, they usually got a quick answer back!
My gripe is about the fact that I have been to a number of job interviews that I am well qualified for and as soon as I see the look on the interviewer's face, I know I won't be getting the job - the reasons(if any) given range from "over qualified" "need someone that is planning to work here for a long time" "need someone that doesn't mind starting at the bottom/ happy to be given basic training" etc. Basically any way they can avoid saying "you are too old"!!!

MerylStreep Wed 10-Nov-21 17:52:53

My granddaughter who adores me always greets me with:
hello old person, how’s it going
My daughter asked me if I was offended. No!! I am ?

Dickens Wed 10-Nov-21 18:12:13

Spice101

Hardly a comment worth being offend by in my opinion.

Offence seems to be taken far too easily in this day and age.

... ageism can be dangerous and damaging.

I only have one experience of it, and it was nasty, resulting in me being left in pain and in a mess, during a hospital stay. I don't want to go into details. I'm not a complainer and am quite stoic but was treated abysmally by a member of staff who made it quite clear that because of my age, she thought she could talk down to me... this was later confirmed by another member of the staff who said I should report the incident.

It's easy to be dismissive of people taking offence, but you should ask yourself what motivates some individuals to treat others with the contempt they would not like to be treated with themselves.

Would you not be offended if someone implied that you were stupid because you were old?

Lilydrop Wed 10-Nov-21 18:17:51

Rosiebee I too loved David McCullum. I still like him in NCIS but he is in his 80s now.
I dont so much worry about people saying ageist stuff being young at heart myself but I really dislike it when someone says "get a life"or "you should get out more". So rude

utterbliss Wed 10-Nov-21 18:20:28

Canadian Gran, what part of Canada are you from?

Doodledog Wed 10-Nov-21 18:22:43

It's easy to be dismissive of people taking offence, but you should ask yourself what motivates some individuals to treat others with the contempt they would not like to be treated with themselves. Would you not be offended if someone implied that you were stupid because you were old?

Thinking about it, it's the dismissiveness that is offensive - whether that's being dismissed because of age, or because the someone doesn't agree that it shouldn't be done.

Mollygo Wed 10-Nov-21 18:35:09

It’s judging what you can do when you are older that bugs my 102 year old Aunt.
She’s an avid iPad user and FB person but she said people who visit the home are always amazed that she can do it “at her age”. She thinks they are rude.

CanadianGran Wed 10-Nov-21 18:51:36

Thanks all... I admit to dwelling on it while sleepless last night! I know it should not let it bother me. I get along well with all the other co-workers, This one in the past made a snide remark about older people wanting to joint her ball-hockey team, how they couldn't keep up and brought down the whole team. She was referring to anyone that already had kids!

I think I am fairly well respected by others, and have trained most of them at one point or another. I do admit to feeling not a part of the crowd, though, because I am the only one here over 30! I shouldn't let one big-headed young lady get me down. I normally wear my grey hair proudly... I just needed to vent, and wish I was quicker with come-backs.

Dickens Wed 10-Nov-21 19:31:05

Doodledog

"Thinking about it, it's the dismissiveness that is offensive - whether that's being dismissed because of age, or because the someone doesn't agree that it shouldn't be done."

Agree. Dismissing other people's concerns because they're not important to you, is flippin' offensive!

I really don't believe that "these days" people are more touchy or looking to be easily offended. I think social media and the internet has just made us more aware of just how unpleasant some individuals can be.

... and 'ageism' can range from a light-hearted remark with no intent to offend, to elderly people being physically and mentally abused. And, in between, are those who make remarks about old people without really thinking about their comments. But the fact remains that ageism is a 'thing' and... it works both ways - I get quite annoyed at the casual dismissal of young people as "snowflakes", or the insinuation that they're all selfish and entitled and all "want the latest gadgets". I remember being young and also wanting the latest gadgets, and being a tad on the self-centred, touchy side. I genuinely don't think today's youth are much different.

harrysgran Wed 10-Nov-21 19:58:05

I am the oldest at my place of work surrounded by those in their 20s and 30s most of the time I find it no problem however now and again it catches me out like today when a fairly new colleague was coming in a room as I was leaving and he apologised for bumping into me which was fine until he called me LOVE a term I know he wouldn't ever use to anyone else I felt as, I'm in my mid 60s he thought this was acceptable petty I know but it's been a long day

Dickens Wed 10-Nov-21 20:17:39

MerylStreep

My granddaughter who adores me always greets me with:
hello old person, how’s it going
My daughter asked me if I was offended. No!! I am ?

... your granddaughter is using the "old person" tag as a form of endearment. I sometimes refer to my partner in a similar vein (although we are the same age)... "good morning, old man". In the same way you might affectionately refer to an infant as "baby" or a young person as "young 'un"

Quite different from the casually dismissive comments from those that think old people are stupid and past it...

Mitten Wed 10-Nov-21 20:25:26

I’m sorry but ageism is rife and I find it derogatory not funny… why should we accept labels and stereotyping at any age… we are not an homogenous group at any age… all young people are not all the same etc etc etc..