AIBU or is my DH being unreasonable!

I don't think the vaccine is doing much good. Everyone I know has caught the virus. Most are fully vaccinated including myself.
I do think people who are vaccinated are keeping closer company with crowds, friends, and family as they feel well protected. Social distances has become a thing of the past which is probably why figures are so high now.
The age old question is
Is the vaccine helping to reduce deaths and serious complications
Or
Has the virus and its varients become weaker over time and now not such a serious risk
As for masks they can't stop viruses spreading unless you use the N type of mask. But there again do they contribute to the spread of germs by people having closer contact.
I've had 3 vaccines so not an antivaxer.

Another thing, unvaccinated people aren’t falling I’ll, the vaccinated are because their immune system has been hijacked by the RNA part of the vaccine and it is bonding with the natural DNA on the surface of the cell wall, causing breakdown there. Do some research and don’t be afraid to consider others’ opinions and research that is available. The vaccine is still largely untested and the side effects will not fully be seen until more years have passed.

Yes you’re being unreasonable. Covid is here to stay. It’s just a very severe flu that would take out anyone whose immune system is compromised. If you’re healthy and strong just get some flu medicines like lemsip, sinus relief, cough mixture, friars balsam or menthol crystals for steaming and you’re well sorted. I know you don’t want to hear this however, you’re at the mercy of public opinion and mesmerism. Wake up and live. Be happy and just wear a mask if it makes you feel safer.

Pammie, I get your point. Unless we are going to ask every single person we meet whether they are vaccinated, it's impossible to know otherwise. I also hate what this bl***y Pandemic has done to people.

Pepper59

Surely, the unvaccinated are more at risk from socialising? If people don't want the vaccine that is their choice but since we can all catch or spread the virus (vaccinated or not). I don't quite understand why unvaccinated people put anyone more at risk than anyone else. Everyone should be following hands, face, space, ventilate, whether vaccinated or not. Im not going to ostracise people who have not been vaccinated and how would I know anyway? I can catch this virus anywhere. I think there is more susceptibility to catching it where there are crowds.

Unvaccinated people are much more likely to catch Covid and when they do, carry a higher viral load and are infectious for longer. New variants also arise from unvaccinated communities. They also pose more of a risk to elderly and CEV people and at the moment, represent a higher proportion of patients in ICU with Covid.

I also think you do have to balance this with the fact that some - not all - but some vaccinated people think that because they are vaccinated they are no longer a risk and are not subject to the same precautions, which is not the case.

Surely, the unvaccinated are more at risk from socialising? If people don't want the vaccine that is their choice but since we can all catch or spread the virus (vaccinated or not). I don't quite understand why unvaccinated people put anyone more at risk than anyone else. Everyone should be following hands, face, space, ventilate, whether vaccinated or not. Im not going to ostracise people who have not been vaccinated and how would I know anyway? I can catch this virus anywhere. I think there is more susceptibility to catching it where there are crowds.

You most certainly are not being unreasonable.

He is putting you and everyone else he is in contact with at risk, very very foolish indeed, in fact it is far more than foolish.

* BUT....their chances of catching and passing on this virus is exactly the same as those who have been vaccinated.*

Nope. Greater chance of catching it if you’re unvaccinated and greater chance of passing it on because the viral load and length of infection is great in the unvaccinated. New variants come from unvaccinated communities too.

* So yes I do think YABU as your OH and yourself can catch it from anyone you mix with vaccinated or not*

But more likely to catch it from someone who is unvaccinated, as their viral load tends to be higher and also infectious for longer.

Basically your husband is placing this friendship above you, your health, your mental health, your marriage and the welfare of all the vaccinated people you mix with.
Those are his priorities.
Speaks volumes.

Do tell us OP, have you made a stand?

I would be affronted if my husband put the desires of his friend before me, I'd ask him to isolate from me for 5 days after each time he sees him,

Ask him if he'd like to move in with his chum in order to keep you safe?
And to look after his chum(p) if/when he becomes really ill with Covid?
Or would he prefer to sometimes lay flowers on your grave, you know, when his chum allows him to?!!

Good luck, Jezra, I hope he comes to his senses soon!

Suedawes the only way a 23 month old picks up that language is because he hears it around him, he has no clue what it means. As Jane says, it’s the adults around him who need to mind their language.

Franbern BUT....their chances of catching and passing on this virus is exactly the same as those who have been vaccinated
No. Unvaccinated people who are infected will be carrying a higher viral load than a vaccinated person & so will be more likely to pass it on.

suedawes you need to start your own thread if you want people to respond. But a good start would be to ask the adults around your grandson to refrain from using the f-word and other expletives.

I think if you believe that being vaccinated is the right thing for you and your family then you should do it and continue to vaccinate regularly otherwise you’ll be classed as unvaccinated. But I think it’s wrong to expect or judge others who are not comfortable taking an experimental vaccine (it is not fully approved or tested - fact).

It seems many people have lost the ability to think critically, use common sense or question the censorship of mainstream media.

I think this is quite interesting.

www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid

BUT....their chances of catching and passing on this virus is exactly the same as those who have been vaccinated

No it isn’t.

I am still bewildered by how an unvaccinated person is of any more danger to their friends, than one that is vaccinated. If they catch covid, it is likely they will be far more ill with it than those who have been vaccinated.

BUT....their chances of catching and passing on this virus is exactly the same as those who have been vaccinated.

Do people really still not understand what vaccination does? Protects you if you catch the virus that is all.

So.....your unvaccinated friend is in far more danger from hubbie than he is from them.

Claxon

I fail to see what the issue is. You’re both vaccinated, so what difference does it make to you? Possibly to them, but that’s not your problem.
I have a mixture of friends some vaccinated and some not. FYI all my friends who have been vaccinated have suffered far worse and for longer than non my non vaccinated friends. I haven’t had covid so can’t comment.

You can’t comment ? You just did. “All your friends” who have Covid etc How many ? Sorry but I think that’s nonsense.
Not being vaccinated is just selfish,

As someone who was left with heart failure because of COVID (previously no health conditions) you are not being unreasonable. You might want to ask your husband if his friendship is worth life changing health conditions (or worse)

I fail to see what the issue is. You’re both vaccinated, so what difference does it make to you? Possibly to them, but that’s not your problem.
I have a mixture of friends some vaccinated and some not. FYI all my friends who have been vaccinated have suffered far worse and for longer than non my non vaccinated friends. I haven’t had covid so can’t comment.

Most people I know who have Covid at this time, have very mild symptoms but have all been vaccinated. One friend who is unvaccinated had Covid back in July again a mild dose and feeling a bit fluey for two days. We just have to live with this and not shut ourselves away.

I have a wonderful 23 month old grandson, but he's started saying 'oh f**k' when he drops something or does something wrong. He is slightly behind in speaking generally. How can we stop him from swearing? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

He is being dangerously stupid and thoughtless - how can he even consider being friends with such a loser, never mind putting your health at risk - absolute no no, or divorce time I'd say

Perhaps they should read this

Anti-vaxx kickboxing champion dies from Covid after trying to treat 'little virus' at home

AN ANTI-VACCINE kickboxing champion has died from coronavirus after he tried to treat himself at home.

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