This is either made up or an embellished reverse.
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My son is engaged and he and his fiancé “DIL” are expecting a baby boy in late February. They also have a 4 y.o girl who is DIL’s from a previous relationship, but my son has raised her since she was 1.5 and considers her his own (she has no contact with bio father.)
I have been feeling rather snubbed as of late. To start, we have repeatedly asked if we could get 4 y.o granddaughter for a few hours to have at our home (alone) and been ignored or told no. My son told me this is because “they” (DIL I am assuming- my son grew up in my house and was never too good to be around us until he met her) but “they” don’t want their children around “thirdhand” smoke. We smoke inside but only in the kitchen with the fan on and it doesn’t smell. I told him that we of course wouldn’t smoke while they were in our house and he said that doesn’t matter because they think that smoke residue sticks to the inside of the house and that we need to stop completely AND get the house deep cleaned PROFESSIONALLY before they will bring our grandchildren to our house.
This is absolutely devastating to us. I don’t think that DIL should be dictating what we do in our own home while they kids aren’t around in order to have us see our grandchildren and bond with them alone. My son said DIL has had two infants in her family pass away from SIDS (mind you over the last two DECADES, so not exactly a common occurrence) and that exposure to “thirdhand” smoke is a non negotiable no for her.
She is so obsessed with this anxiety she has that she’s even said that my husband and I will need to SHOWER, EVERY SINGLE TIME before we come to see the new baby at their house (as again he won’t be allowed at ours.) She says the “doctor recommended” that anyone who smokes (which is JUST US) showers, changes into freshly washed clothes that “have not been exposed to cigarette smoke,” and refrain from smoking until our visit is done. (In addition to washing our hands before holding him which we would of course already do.)
She says that anyone who comes into the house smelling like cigarette smoke (or strong perfume- wouldn’t want us trying to skip our shower) will not be allowed to hold the baby when they arrive. So if she deems that we smell like cigarettes, she will tell us we cannot hold OUR NEWBORN GRANDSON when we come to their house. She even condescendingly said that they would be “HAPPY TO KEEP A CHANGE OF CLOTHES FOR US AT THEIR HOUSE IF WE DON’T THINK WE CAN KEEP OURS SMOKE FREE”
This all leads me to my next point- I complained to my son, explaining that asking us to shower every single time we come will be way too much and is expecting too much, and that we will likely want/need to go out for a cigarette at some point during our visits to the new baby as it’ll be difficult for us to sit for so long without having a smoke.
My son then says “it shouldn’t be too difficult to sit through the visit without smoking as we are only wanting people to stay for around a half an hour, and the showering shouldn’t be too inconvenient as we will only be interested in having any given person over ONCE A WEEK when he’s newborn.”
They want me, who lives 5 minutes away, to contain my visits to once a week for THIRTY MINUTES. He told me this is because they want to “bond as a family” (we are their family?! And we want to bond with him too!) and that DIL will be “bleeding, exhausted and in pain” (I’ve given birth before- this is dramatic.) He also said that DIL wants to give the baby breast milk and that she doesn’t feel comfortable being exposed in front of guests but won’t “feel like” walking up and down the stairs with baby to feed him so guests can stay, so we will be expected to leave when the baby wants to eat and not come again for another week.
I was never close to my mom (DIL is so I’m sure HER mom will get to be there nonstop) but I let my ex husband’s mother come over as much as she wanted after I had my two sons. She also smoked inside and still got to have my children overnight and for visits whenever she wanted because she is THEIR GRANDMOTHER. I am absolutely appalled and so heartbroken over these “rules” that we’ve had put in place. I always thought we had a good relationship with DIL until we really started noticing that she avoids the subject every time we ask to have their daughter alone.
This is either made up or an embellished reverse.
Chewbacca
Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night?
because she needed a fag in the kitchen with the fan on?
You are being very unreasonable. I am completely with your son and daughter-in-law. I would have hated (& still would hate) to have visitors who smelled of smoke and who popped out to smoke more and refresh the smoky smell. And I’ve never been in a smoker’s house without smelling the smoke, no matter how much they used a fan, an air purifier, or kept windows open. Smoke gets into furniture, carpets, rugs, walls…..
Your family are absolutely right in protecting their family. Be grateful they are caring for the health of their children.
What is this obsession with having small children visit without their parents ?
I can understand the desire to spend time with your grandchildren. The rules your son and his partner want you to follow are pretty strict but, as others have said, their children, their rules.
If you do as they ask (and how about giving up smoking and drinking at the same time?) you will at least get to see the children. Over time, they may come to realise that you are reliable and things will relax.
Hetty58 ??????
Hetty58
So much more like the truth 
TerriBull
Chewbacca
Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night?
May be because they are American and it isn't the middle of the night wherever they are, just a thought!
If this is a genuine dilemma, then I echo everyone else you are being unreasonable, and rather entitled to boot.
Spot on Terribull!
Although the DGC are usually referred to as grandbabies
(I really dislike that term but don't mind me).
Would it not be better for your health to pack up smoking, OP?
You're unreasonable. Even without the family history of SIDS, most new parents would have the same rules. My own daughter had those rules when my DGS was a baby.
Smokers are regarded as pariahs, more or less, these days. If you're so desperate to 'bond' with your grandchildren, why not try giving up?
I DO appreciate smoking is a terrible addiction and I sympathise. But I'd do almost anything to continue to have a relationship with my grandson.
At this rate, you'll not only not get to spend time with the grandchildren, you're going to alienate your son too.
Chewbacca
Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night?
May be because they are American and it isn't the middle of the night wherever they are, just a thought!
If this is a genuine dilemma, then I echo everyone else you are being unreasonable, and rather entitled to boot.
Hetty58
Yep, only here, on 'planet Gransnet' (where there's no pandemic) do people fight to get their hands on small GC, to keep them overnight (WTF?) and battle with their kids, SILs and DILs - to assert their 'rights'.
Back here in the real world its:
'What, you want me to have them again? I only saw them two weeks ago! You go out too much! Can't his mum have them? Well, OK then, but do the LFTs one hour before you leave.
Oh, and tell the mucky little b*****s to get their shoes off in the porch. There was mud all over the hall last time! Make sure you're back by noon on Sunday, though, as I'm going out!'
Yep, that was more my style of grand-parenting lol ?
I’m always happy to see then, now they’re young adults though….especially as they usually rock up with a bottle of wine…??
Reverse post
YABU. If you want contact with GC you need to give up smoking. Your DIL's position is perfectly reasonable, yours is not.
Like everyone else, I can't believe that grandparents could be quite so intolerant of their son's wishes with regards to the care of the children, and the baby isn't even born yet. If it is true.
You ABU not your child its the parents choice
Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night? 
You are being very unreasonable! And are very lucky that at least your son and DIL are being very cleatr about their expectations! The choice is yours!!
Yep, only here, on 'planet Gransnet' (where there's no pandemic) do people fight to get their hands on small GC, to keep them overnight (WTF?) and battle with their kids, SILs and DILs - to assert their 'rights'.
Back here in the real world its:
'What, you want me to have them again? I only saw them two weeks ago! You go out too much! Can't his mum have them? Well, OK then, but do the LFTs one hour before you leave.
Oh, and tell the mucky little b*****s to get their shoes off in the porch. There was mud all over the hall last time! Make sure you're back by noon on Sunday, though, as I'm going out!'
I’ve now read the post. If you are genuine, then you’re completely barmy if you can’t see how you’re wrong on so many levels.
YABU.
I remember reading a similar post to this not that long ago. Two posters with the same unusual problems is quite a coincidence. Why not look for that other grandparent with the same problem as yours and find out how they resolved the contentious issues as that baby will have been born by now.
Deja vu. Post has appeared before almost verbatim.
Loving this post. I haven't been part of GRANSNET for very long but it isn't hard to work out the "unusual" people who for whatever reason post spoof messages. Better than the "Daily Mail On-Line" 
Yes. You are being unreasonable. Very.
I think the other post, previously, was ostensibly from a DIL saying she didn’t want her MIL involved a lot, because both paternal grandparents smoked and (in her view) drank too much.
The background was the same, but in reverse.
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