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Are you irritated by incorrect grammar.

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Quizzer Wed 12-Jan-22 10:01:45

I am all for regional accents, even though some can be mildly irritating.
However what really annoys me is blatantly incorrect grammar. On the news this morning I heard a senior politician using the phrases “you was” and “we was”. Unfortunately my brain automatically reduces my perception of the speaker’s IQ by about 20 points.
Am I alone in this, or are there any other glaring errors which really irritate you?

Boz Wed 12-Jan-22 17:17:11

All that really grates on me is using a breathy H when talking about the letter "aitch". I think it come about from a fear of dropping your H and looking ignorant.

Oldnproud Wed 12-Jan-22 17:24:00

Soroptimum

How about Priti Patel dropping her ‘g’s?
I have 2 bugbears - using invite as a noun (it’s a verb, invitation is the noun), and ‘very unique’. If something is unique it’s unique- it can’t be ‘very’!!!

invite as a noun, meaning an invitation, is in the Oxford Shorter dictionary. It's not new. It was used by WH Auden, apparently, but predates that be several centuries according to other sources.

Framilode Wed 12-Jan-22 17:24:07

My grammar is far from perfect but what really irritates me, and it seems to have become more frequent recently, is starting a sentence with 'Myself and OH' instead of OH and I.

LtEve Wed 12-Jan-22 17:36:12

I have just received a work email, about 25 lines long asking me to do something. It hasn't got a single piece of punctuation in it, not even a solitary full stop. I've read it several times and can't make head nor tail of what she wants me to do so I'm going to ignore it.
Reasonably accurate punctuation, not perfect but reasonable, does matter especially when giving instructions. After all 'Let's eat, Grandma' and 'Let's eat Grandma' mean totally different things. smile

GrandmaKT Wed 12-Jan-22 17:43:47

It astounds me how many people on the Facebook forums use "there" and "their" and "to" and "too" incorrectly. I clearly remember being taught these at infant school and my GC, aged 8 and 6 know the difference. How can adults not know?

Quizzer Wed 12-Jan-22 19:43:20

I didn’t comment on that person’s IQ. I know that particular politician to be vey intelligent.
I just said that subconsciously bad grammar leads me to believe that a person is not so bright.

Sparklefizz Wed 12-Jan-22 19:56:40

I don't think anyone has said that they actually correct someone, but we're allowed to think our thoughts.

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 20:03:02

You should read Shakespeare and Chaucer!

Chardy Wed 12-Jan-22 20:44:32

Quizzer

I am all for regional accents, even though some can be mildly irritating.
However what really annoys me is blatantly incorrect grammar. On the news this morning I heard a senior politician using the phrases “you was” and “we was”. Unfortunately my brain automatically reduces my perception of the speaker’s IQ by about 20 points.
Am I alone in this, or are there any other glaring errors which really irritate you?

Born in London, and a pedant, I lived in Stockport. Sorry, Quizzer, but that's as much part of how people speak as the regional accent.
If Scottish MPs lost their accent because they live in London, they'd be accused of... snobbery, forgetting their roots etc? Regional voters like to hear MPs' roots when they speak, not some fake posh Londonvoice.

Coastpath Wed 12-Jan-22 20:50:31

I've no recollection of ever having a grammar lesson at school (a comprehensive school on a big council estate) and I speak with an accent that makes Vicky Pollard sound like Penelope Keith.

I've read an awful lot and have tried to take note of correct grammar and copy it, but I wouldn't really know when I am getting it wrong. I'm very happy if I'm corrected if it means I will get it right in future.

It hadn't really crossed my mind that my writing or speech might be irritating or make someone think I was less bright than someone with perfect diction/grammar. It doesn't seem to have held me back from achieving what I wanted to.

I just do my best to get my thoughts, questions and ideas across and hope that any shortcomings in grammar don't detract from what I'm trying to convey. It's very comforting to know that HM The Queen gets it wrong too.

CanadianGran Wed 12-Jan-22 21:26:24

Reading the comments, I'm stumped on the less/fewer errors.
I'll admit to having to look it up and hope I've not been judged as unintelligent on here in the past.

So less for uncountable nouns, fewer for countable nouns. But use less for time , money and weights. Oh boy.

So...
She completed her English degree in fewer than four years.
or
She completed her English degree in less than four years.

My natural tendency would be to use less than.

Beswitched Wed 12-Jan-22 21:28:56

Framilode

My grammar is far from perfect but what really irritates me, and it seems to have become more frequent recently, is starting a sentence with 'Myself and OH' instead of OH and I.

We say that all the time in Ireland. 'DH and I' would be considered quite formal.
However when I talked about 'myself and DH' on mumsnet posters were rushing on to sneer and accuse me of affectation. It's not, it's the way we speak here.

Oldnproud Wed 12-Jan-22 21:33:28

CanadianGran

Reading the comments, I'm stumped on the less/fewer errors.
I'll admit to having to look it up and hope I've not been judged as unintelligent on here in the past.

So less for uncountable nouns, fewer for countable nouns. But use less for time , money and weights. Oh boy.

So...
She completed her English degree in fewer than four years.
or
She completed her English degree in less than four years.

My natural tendency would be to use less than.

Or even '... in under four years', maybe? grin

But seriously - and I freely admit to having just looked this up- , you are talking about a chunk of time, so it's less.

MissAdventure Wed 12-Jan-22 22:17:32

I just looked up the rules on "My husband and I", but I didn't understand them.

It did say, though, that it is as much to do with modesty as it is grammar.

Rosina Wed 12-Jan-22 22:40:04

If you speak clearly and accurately as a child, there is probably a better chance that you will read more easily, and find that learning how to spell is not as difficult. Given the vagaries of the English language, where identical words mean different things, surely to speak with a degree of clarity is better for a child than if speech and the written word bear no relation to each other. That has nothing to do with accents, snobbery or pedantry.

MissAdventure Wed 12-Jan-22 22:47:54

I often think the same when I see spelling mistakes on here. smile

Mollygo Wed 12-Jan-22 22:49:41

My pet hate is different to or different than. As someone already pointed out, different from is correct.
But then, language has moved on, and eventually, different to will be acceptable, simply by common usage.
This is why, although I know decimate originally meant the killing of every tenth soldier in a group, I’m interested to know it can be applied currently (lacking cohorts of Romans to decimate), to mean the killing or destruction of a large number of beings.

Bodach Wed 12-Jan-22 23:10:10

MissAdventure

I just looked up the rules on "My husband and I", but I didn't understand them.

It did say, though, that it is as much to do with modesty as it is grammar.

For those unsure about the rules of grammar, the easy way to solve any doubt about whether to use "My husband and I" or "My husband and me" is to leave out the "My husband and.." bit before the 'me' or 'I', and see if the remainder makes sense or not.
Let's indicate the missing "My husband and.." as "..." in the following examples. Hence "... I went shopping" is obviously correct, whereas "... me went shopping is wrong. Similarly, "He gave it to ... I" is equally easy to identify as wrong. Simples!

SJPKGP Thu 13-Jan-22 01:14:28

Have enjoyed this thread, thank you. I will forgive every misplaced (greengrocers) apostrophe, and even the Their/There/They're condundrum, as long as I do not have to hear anyone calling a hospital a 'hosspiddle' again on BBC1. P.S. I'll get my coat.

poshpaws Thu 13-Jan-22 01:53:16

The one which bugs me is "bored of" . It's "bored by" surely???

Ali08 Thu 13-Jan-22 05:01:40

Yes, it is irritating! I often read the news on my 'phone and some of the errors that are written down make me wonder if they let children write them? Do we not have editors nowadays?

Ali08 Thu 13-Jan-22 05:05:09

I'm forever correcting my 3 oldest grandchildren because they say 'somethink' 'anythink' etc. They've picked it up from their nanny on their dads side, but they have it ingrained in them now....I will, however, keep on at them!

Ali08 Thu 13-Jan-22 05:10:19

While on this thread, would someone kindly tell me if 'burglarised' is a real word? Or have the Americans simply made it up by actually elongating a word for a change?
Why can't they just say 'burgled' like the rest of us?

karmalady Thu 13-Jan-22 05:23:26

very fun

could of would of should of

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 05:25:06

Quizzer

I didn’t comment on that person’s IQ. I know that particular politician to be vey intelligent.
I just said that subconsciously bad grammar leads me to believe that a person is not so bright.

Quizzer
So what does the fact that you have made the most glaringly obvious grammatical error in your title say about your IQ then? (Subconsciously or other wise.)

The use of question marks is taught in KS1.