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Are you irritated by incorrect grammar.

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Quizzer Wed 12-Jan-22 10:01:45

I am all for regional accents, even though some can be mildly irritating.
However what really annoys me is blatantly incorrect grammar. On the news this morning I heard a senior politician using the phrases “you was” and “we was”. Unfortunately my brain automatically reduces my perception of the speaker’s IQ by about 20 points.
Am I alone in this, or are there any other glaring errors which really irritate you?

Doodledog Thu 13-Jan-22 13:52:20

Well said, MissA.

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:10:37

Too many former teachers on here with the dreaded red pen to mark our papers!?

Personally, I think it rude and unkind to correct anyone who has made an obvious error and I cringe when I witness posters being taken to task on GN. At this age, I care not a jot as the content of a post is more important for me.

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 14:14:31

Kalu, I always used a green pen!!! ?

kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:23:29

Boz

All that really grates on me is using a breathy H when talking about the letter "aitch". I think it come about from a fear of dropping your H and looking ignorant.

In N Ireland people who say haitch are Catholics. I don't know why that is but I don't know any protestants who pronounce it that way.

kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:24:31

I see autocorrect doesn't give protestants a capital letter!

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:31:12

I always had you down as the edgy type Marydoll? I’m afraid our teachers only ever saw red, in bold letters??

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 14:38:38

‘They’ bought in the bloody green pen thing because they reckoned that red was aggressive and upset the kids.
The reality was that green pen didn’t show up in the page easily, didn’t photocopy well and the pens weren’t widely available.
I bought boxes and boxes of Staedtler bottle green fine liners.
I still have dozens of the things!

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:43:07

GD1 had a teacher from the north east of England who, when teaching pupils the alphabet, insisted on pronouncing aitch as haitch, which shows up underlined in red as I type.

I made the mistake of correcting her to no avail as her reply was, whatever the teacher said was correct! Grr.

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 14:44:11

Fanny, forty forty five years ago at university, my fountain pen contained green ink. I was so ahead of my time! ?

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 14:50:40

Mary that’s brilliant!
I went through a phase of brown ink in my fountain pen.
Oh for the days when you could choose which colour pen to use!
At one school I worked at the kids, teachers and TAs had to use five different colour pens for strictly differentiated activities.
It was a flipping nightmare.
You’d spend literally half of every lesson going through the presentation policy (DUMTUMS - did you have that?) and the pen policy! ?

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:52:18

The only thing that upset me Fanny was seeing the word ‘wrong’ not what colour it was written in.

Obviously showing my age as I had no idea green pens are now used to soften the blow. ?

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 14:52:48

Oh, and then they became evangelical about cursive?

Kathy73 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:55:07

FannyCornforth

In fact, everytime I see the title of this thread, I am really, really irritated!

Everytime should be written as two separate words: every time. While some compound words like everywhere, everyday, and everyone have become commonplace in the English language, everytime is not considered an acceptable compound word

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 15:00:28

Small tip from a once impoverished student nurse. Buy a bottle of pearlised white nail polish, mix a small amount with coloured ink and, voila, instant eye catching green, blue or red finger nails. Those were the days. ?

Chewbacca Thu 13-Jan-22 15:00:38

This is the funniest thread for ages! Everyone's posting to point out the errors of previous posts and, in so doing, slips up themselves! grin We're all tripping over ourselves! grin

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 15:00:56

That is what grammarly says, anyway.

Kali2 Thu 13-Jan-22 15:10:34

eazybee

Coastpath makes the point that her mum's education was lacking, but writes that she seized the opportunity to improve her learning at night school, as so many did.
Angela Rayner considers she has no need to improve her grammar, or lack of education, which is shocking coming from someone who was for a time Shadow Secretary of State for Education.

She is not talking about grammatical errors, but accent.

Melvyn Bragg describes well the snobism he met when he went to Grammar school- mocked about his Lancashire accent and sayings. He got rid, very fast, as it was the only way to go up the ladder. Sad, I think.

I remember the Dean of my University, at our inauguration lecture- telling us we had to get rid of our local accents if we wanted to progress in the teaching profession- in the strongest klipped South African accent.

So much snobbism and false superiority linked to accent and grammar.

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 16:07:54

Kathy but the difference is, I’m not setting myself up as the Grammar Police.
I don’t give a stuff about Angela Rayner’s grammar, which is what the op was about.
I was just trying to apply a ‘glass houses’ policy smile

Jaxjacky Thu 13-Jan-22 16:14:31

kircubbin2000 my husband, who is of a Catholic family in Belfast does not say haitch. But my children, from a probably predominantly Protestant S Hampshire, bought up by an atheist mother, do. It’s how they were taught using the Letter Land alphabet.

Kim19 Thu 13-Jan-22 17:05:08

'Febury' cripples me every time. Ugh!

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 17:07:30

That odd about Letterland. That programme was taught in all our local schools and the h sound was always silent.

Jaxjacky Thu 13-Jan-22 17:13:39

Not in this version Marydoll maybe Scotland had a different one.

Jaxjacky Thu 13-Jan-22 17:15:07

Not very readable: Harry Hat Man (h as in hen)

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 17:26:56

Jaxjacky

Not very readable: Harry Hat Man (h as in hen)

But (I think) that is the phoneme / grapheme correspondence; as opposed to the ‘letter name’, which is aitch

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 17:30:30

I’m not au fait with Letterland, but I’ve earned my stripes phonics wise