Are you irritated by incorrect grammar.

That's not what I meant Jax. When teaching the alphabet, the name of letter itself, was pronounced aitch, not haitch.

FannyCornforth

Jaxjacky

Not very readable: Harry Hat Man (h as in hen)

But (I think) that is the phoneme / grapheme correspondence; as opposed to the ‘letter name’, which is aitch

It is indeed the phoneme/grapheme correspondence, not the letter name, because Letter Land was a phonics based programme.

Although I was brought up with 'aitch' and it drives me crazy when people say 'haitch' the second is actually more logical as it starts with the sound /h/ that the letter represents.

Anniebach

No, I am interested in what is being said not how

I tend to be like that ... I probably make a few faux pas myself so can't jump on others.

Ah well, that’s how they were taught and I had to practice the alphabet with them from the book.

When using phonics programmes such as Letterland, it is still necessary to teach the correct letter names. I was taught that the correct name for H is aitch and haitch is a regional pronunciation. I am sure someone will dispute that.
However, in the face the experts, I am mortified that my colleagues and I have mistaught so many pupils over the years, when using Letterland. Oh well, it's too late now, the damage is done.
We were delighted when we ditched it in favour of a more suitable and appropriate phonics programme.

Now, dare I mention the pronunciation of the letter J.

In my part of Scotland it was always Jy ( to rhyme with my ) Totally wrong and our teachers knocked it out of us. It is still pronounced wrongly in the West of Scotland by those who weren't scared of the teacher ?

Grandmajean ??

Kathy73

FannyCornforth

In fact, everytime I see the title of this thread, I am really, really irritated!

^Everytime should be written as two separate words: every time. While some compound words like everywhere, everyday, and everyone have become commonplace in the English language, everytime is not considered an acceptable compound word^

When Wilko was still called Wilkinson’s, I used to get very wound up by seeing ‘Everytime!’ plastered in big letters on their lorries.

Aitch for hat, confusing yes, but equally confusing is the hard c for cat with the letter name cee. Letterland never landed in my children’s school for which I was truly grateful, though it was less confusing than ITA.

Oh dear! I am not suggesting aitch for hat. Of course it's hhhhhhat!
I am talking about the letter name, which is a totally different matter from the sound.

I give up.

By the way, is Letterland still used? I sincerely hope not.

No marydoll it’s not.

Us Yorkshire folk always drop our 'h'. Admittedly we sound like old washer women ( or i do when i ear myself ) hahaha... sorry any *washer woman young or old ... x

I absolutely hate bad grammar. It drives me crazy and detracts from what is being said. However, I have a little sympathy for Angela Rayner's bad grammar now as I thought she gave a great performance in the House the other day in Keir Starmer's absence. What an achievement for someone with her background to have become the deputy leader of the Labour Party.

Maybe it was only taught in Hampshire as the local accent is notorious for dropping its h’s , hence ‘ampshire og’ ??

FannyCornforth

Did the dog correct you, Ravelling?
That’s always mortifying!

EllanVannin

The double use of off/ of---get off of there. What's that about ?

Being from Renfrewshire.
It’s dialectic usage. Not a grammatical error.

Mogsmaw

EllanVannin

The double use of off/ of---get off of there. What's that about ?

Being from Renfrewshire.
It’s dialectic usage. Not a grammatical error.

A Paisley girl here, who was known to shout that at/to ? her pupils. ?

Obviously some here are better than others with grammar and word usage. On board forums such as this there are very few times when something will jump out at me, but realize that people are typing on ipads or phones, so easy to make mistakes. At least here we don't see text-speak, as in 'C U 2mrw"

The only time grammar mistakes really bother me is in business correspondence. We have one employee in management who has terrible grammar, and I flinch in embarrassment sometimes when copied in to correspondence.

I’ve been teaching phonics since 2006 and have never come across Letterland (or indeed Letter Land )

And can I just clarify; I know that everytime is not a compound word.
It was a mistype.
I type my replies as quickly as possible, in order to maintain a ‘chatty’ flow.
I never preview.
I don’t treat GN posts as essays.

Totally right CanadianGran
Spot on

Fanny, totally agree! Pulling posters up for making spelling or grammatical errors, may lead to people being reluctant to post. ☹

I am always surprised ( I shouldn't be by now) that there are people, who feel the need to correct others. Who actually cares if everyone/every one is not a compound word? I don't, the meaning was clear.

By the way, it is Letterland, Fanny, just in case you wanted to know. ??

Well then, I won't comment about practice and practise.

eazybee I always have to really think about practice and practise.

Does anyone know, is there a clever way of remembering which one to use?

The misuse of your/you’re and there/their/they’re is rampant.

I once dated a man who only used “your” and “there”. I may be very shallow for feeling this way, but it bothered me.