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Are you irritated by incorrect grammar.

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Quizzer Wed 12-Jan-22 10:01:45

I am all for regional accents, even though some can be mildly irritating.
However what really annoys me is blatantly incorrect grammar. On the news this morning I heard a senior politician using the phrases “you was” and “we was”. Unfortunately my brain automatically reduces my perception of the speaker’s IQ by about 20 points.
Am I alone in this, or are there any other glaring errors which really irritate you?

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 20:03:02

You should read Shakespeare and Chaucer!

Sparklefizz Wed 12-Jan-22 19:56:40

I don't think anyone has said that they actually correct someone, but we're allowed to think our thoughts.

Quizzer Wed 12-Jan-22 19:43:20

I didn’t comment on that person’s IQ. I know that particular politician to be vey intelligent.
I just said that subconsciously bad grammar leads me to believe that a person is not so bright.

GrandmaKT Wed 12-Jan-22 17:43:47

It astounds me how many people on the Facebook forums use "there" and "their" and "to" and "too" incorrectly. I clearly remember being taught these at infant school and my GC, aged 8 and 6 know the difference. How can adults not know?

LtEve Wed 12-Jan-22 17:36:12

I have just received a work email, about 25 lines long asking me to do something. It hasn't got a single piece of punctuation in it, not even a solitary full stop. I've read it several times and can't make head nor tail of what she wants me to do so I'm going to ignore it.
Reasonably accurate punctuation, not perfect but reasonable, does matter especially when giving instructions. After all 'Let's eat, Grandma' and 'Let's eat Grandma' mean totally different things. smile

Framilode Wed 12-Jan-22 17:24:07

My grammar is far from perfect but what really irritates me, and it seems to have become more frequent recently, is starting a sentence with 'Myself and OH' instead of OH and I.

Oldnproud Wed 12-Jan-22 17:24:00

Soroptimum

How about Priti Patel dropping her ‘g’s?
I have 2 bugbears - using invite as a noun (it’s a verb, invitation is the noun), and ‘very unique’. If something is unique it’s unique- it can’t be ‘very’!!!

invite as a noun, meaning an invitation, is in the Oxford Shorter dictionary. It's not new. It was used by WH Auden, apparently, but predates that be several centuries according to other sources.

Boz Wed 12-Jan-22 17:17:11

All that really grates on me is using a breathy H when talking about the letter "aitch". I think it come about from a fear of dropping your H and looking ignorant.

Oldnproud Wed 12-Jan-22 17:16:54

crazyH

On the other hand:
Three hundred and fifty pounds were stolen ? Just asking……

It's a confusing one, I know, but sums of money usually take a single verb.

Oldnproud Wed 12-Jan-22 17:13:45

eazybee

I have discovered another use of a word to annoy me, courtesy of Mrs. Rayner: the use of 'critique' as a verb.
' I've been on the media this morning so my accent and grammar are being critiqued'.
In my three dictionaries 'critique' is a noun, but online dictionaries quote it as a noun and a verb.
What is wrong with criticized, or criticised, whichever you prefer?

eazybee.

The verb form of critique is in my thirty-year- old Oxford Shorter dictionary. '

crazyH Wed 12-Jan-22 17:05:15

On the other hand:
Three hundred and fifty pounds were stolen ? Just asking……

Oldnproud Wed 12-Jan-22 16:52:29

kathsue

Just heard on local radio that £350 were stolen from a charity box. It sounded wrong to me. I would have said £350 was stolen. It wasn't as if there were 350 individual pound coins. confused
Maybe one of gransnet's pedants can enlighten me.

I would say that you are correct, because it is one sum of money.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jan-22 16:48:28

Do you live in Yorkshire perhaps?

kathsue Wed 12-Jan-22 16:44:57

Just heard on local radio that £350 were stolen from a charity box. It sounded wrong to me. I would have said £350 was stolen. It wasn't as if there were 350 individual pound coins. confused
Maybe one of gransnet's pedants can enlighten me.

Dickens Wed 12-Jan-22 16:25:34

The only time I would correct anyone's grammar is if they asked me (nobody does) or if some rude individual is hurling personal and ungrammatical insults at me on Facebook - which has happened a couple of times - because they don't agree with / like my point of view. I don't feel any qualms about being impolite to such individuals.

... I then wait for the inevitable response along the lines of the last rude individual who told me to "get a life, looser [sic]"...

AreWeThereYet Wed 12-Jan-22 15:48:53

Not in speech, particularly with different accents. And not on forum posts so long as I can understand what the poster means. But on official letters, forms, posters - yes.

Witzend Wed 12-Jan-22 15:42:47

Yes, ‘we was’ would definitely grate on me, and it’d affect my opinion of the speaker.
I once worked with a qualified EFL teacher who said it, and refused to adapt when speaking to her (Arabic speaking) students, even though it was confusing them. She was a very arsey type though.

Ditto people dropping Ts all over the place. I sometimes think they’re actually instructed to do it, even on the Beeb, in order to sound un-posh.

Ditto leaving the ‘g’ off ‘ing’ endings. Goin’, bringin’, etc.

And while I’m at it, people writing kinda, sorta, too, though I don’t see that on GN - plenty on MN though.

NanKate Wed 12-Jan-22 15:38:58

I’ve been known to write on posters in shops/banks etc the correct spelling/punctuation, much to my DH’s embarrassment.

Slightly off piste I listen every night to a sleep story on an app to help me fall asleep (and stop worrying). I chose a brand new one last night all set in an old fashioned book shop. It was very atmospheric until the reader said ‘the shop was a few blocks away’ surely that is an American description, followed by sidewalk instead of pavement. I did fall asleep but won’t listen to it again.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jan-22 15:33:52

Innit

Serendipity22 Wed 12-Jan-22 15:32:49

In a swift word..... YES

Blossoming Wed 12-Jan-22 15:28:58

Wo’evva

Juicywords Wed 12-Jan-22 14:46:44

Do you mean “who woz it”

trisher Wed 12-Jan-22 14:42:17

Many years ago as a new teacher intent on ironing out Geordie accents when a boy said "Miss, X keeps 'ittin' us" I said "You mean "X keeps hitting me". Child looked at me mystified and said "No Miss 'e's not 'ittin' you."
Eventually I adapted and got to love the accent and there is a ;lot of "Yous was" or "Yous'll have to" in it.

Beswitched Wed 12-Jan-22 14:41:44

I get annoyed by apostrophes in the wrong place on public signs - Shopfitter's, etc.

But in general no, it doesn't bother me too much.

I absolutely cannot stand posters coming on and correcting people's grammar. You see this a lot on mumsnet. It's unbelievably rude. It's also usually misplaced.

I'm an English graduate and write for a living. When I'm writing a quick post I will often include typos or miss an apostrophe or comma.

I don't need some patronising idiot giving me a lesson in spelling and grammar, thanks.

Doodledog Wed 12-Jan-22 14:37:04

I noticed Angela Rayner's 'slip' this morning, but I didn't for a second think that it betrayed a low IQ. To be honest, I think that anyone who links dialect with IQ can't be too bright - there is no link whatsoever.

To me, a sign of someone with a good education is that they have learned (or been taught) not to judge someone others by the way they speak, but by what they say, and there are several posts on this thread that I'm judging pretty harshly.