To think that Kurt Zouma should be banned from keeping animals after abusing his cat?

henetha

PS. Yes, I agree that Community Service would be a suitable punishment. Something very public and unpleasant.

Picking up dog poo?

They should let him play.
As the football.

Apparently he has been okayed to be picked for tomorrow’s game with Leicester….. you couldn’t make it up!

PS. Yes, I agree that Community Service would be a suitable punishment. Something very public and unpleasant.

It's vital, in my opinion, that he should be sacked and prosecuted, because if he is not what does that say to young people? It says that it's ok to behave like that towards animals.
They need to know that it is absolutely NOT alright. He cannot be allowed to get away with this.

SkyBird

He should be prosecuted and at the very least be made to do Community Service. Preferably something public and demeaning. Fining people with huge incomes is too easy. West Ham, David Moyes and Baroness Karren Brady should hang their heads in shame.

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You may think that it’s ok to treat a cat as an income-producing commodity. I don’t.

He should be prosecuted and at the very least be made to do Community Service. Preferably something public and demeaning. Fining people with huge incomes is too easy. West Ham, David Moyes and Baroness Karren Brady should hang their heads in shame.

@DeeJaysMum

I'm with you on this as I've been a cat breeder in the past and I really do feel for your friend. It seems as though the rspca don't like breeders, which I understand when you're talking about excessive or unethical breeding but those of us who have bred/ do breed responsibly seen to get battered by them unreasonably.

As for Zouma, he deserves having the book thrown at him as hard as possible. There's absolutely no excuse for abusing any animal, he should have a massive fine (not just the pittance his football team made him pay to a rescue organisation), a long (of not lifetime) ban from keeping any animal (if he can laugh about using a cat like a football, he'll do it to a dog, rabbit, etc) and preferably a custodial sentence that he can't buy his way out of or at the very least he should be put through the probation system for it.

I did originally think the brother who videos it was doing a good thing by 'outting' him but as I heard yesterday he's been suspended by his football club to because he too was laughing on the video, so my opinion now is that he should also be dragged through the legal system for not having done anything to stop his brother doing what he did!

@germanshepherdsmum

Basically caged and kept solely to breed for profit. I don’t believe that is humane.

Profit? This friend/breeder hasn't restarted breeding since the ban was lifted almost 6yrs ago but used to charge c£600 for a pedigree kitten (this breed of kitten is now selling for upwards of £1,500 each). By the time all expenses were taken out, there was a 'profit' of about 10%, not exactly enough to live on when you're looking at maybe 4 or 5 kittens per litter.
Also, just because 2 male weren't allowed to live in the house, doesn't mean they didn't get massive amounts of love and attention, my friend had 5 queens and 2 sires (plus 9 kittens from 2 litters) at the time in question, had deposits from new kitten owners and had paid all vet's fees, feeding, care etc, then rspca took them all and wouldn't let the kittens go to those who'd paid, so friend also had to refund everyone, ended up over£20k out of pocket with fine, repaying deposits, vet's fees and value of their own cats.
And I'll say it again, they did nothing wrong!

Shinamae

I have been waiting to hear what Karen Brady says now here it is…????

"I believe we live in a society where people value forgiveness and redemption"

... oh they do... if it involves big bucks... especially in the UK.

Meanwhile in France...

"international manager Didier Deschamps has called the video of Kurt Zouma attacking his pet cat "shocking" and warned he could drop the defender as a result." ("FOOTBALL LONDON")

Shinamae

I have been waiting to hear what Karen Brady says now here it is…????

How strange and what a contrast to the part she plays on The Apprentice - aiding and abetting firing people.

She obviously hasn't the guts or the inclination to say "You're fired" to Zouma as she thinks this thug helped fill the coffers at West Ham.
And why? Because he's good at kicking.

DeeJaysMum

@Germanshepherdsmum

OP seems to think that keeping cats in a locked outdoor pen for breeding purposes is ok. I beg to differ.

I think you'll find that the majority of breeders keep their sires separately from their queens and usually in outdoor catteries or pens, partially so they don't impregnate queens when the breeder doesn't want it happening and because entire males spray to mark territory. No-one wants an entire male spraying all around the house.

I've known this person for a great many years and know exactly how well they cared for their cats, on this occasion there were 2 cats in the pen and a group of local youths had been intimidating the breeder, their child and causing criminal damage to the breeder's home, so it was pretty much a certainty that these youths were the culprits.

So no, the breeder was not at fault in any way, shape or form, the cats were, to all intents and purposes safe and secure, until the garden gate was kicked in and poison pushed through the bars of the pen.

Basically caged and kept solely to breed for profit. I don’t believe that is humane.

I have been waiting to hear what Karen Brady says now here it is…????

Lizbethann55

Just seen on the news that David Moyes says that Zouma is available to be picked to play this weekend. It would appear that provided he can score goals for West Ham, the fact that he has been practising on his pet cat doesn't matter. I always thought David Moyes was a decent bloke. I was obviously wrong.

This is totally unacceptable, I presume they think this will just run its course and blow over, we must not let it!!

And this..

@Germanshepherdsmum

OP seems to think that keeping cats in a locked outdoor pen for breeding purposes is ok. I beg to differ.

I think you'll find that the majority of breeders keep their sires separately from their queens and usually in outdoor catteries or pens, partially so they don't impregnate queens when the breeder doesn't want it happening and because entire males spray to mark territory. No-one wants an entire male spraying all around the house.

I've known this person for a great many years and know exactly how well they cared for their cats, on this occasion there were 2 cats in the pen and a group of local youths had been intimidating the breeder, their child and causing criminal damage to the breeder's home, so it was pretty much a certainty that these youths were the culprits.

So no, the breeder was not at fault in any way, shape or form, the cats were, to all intents and purposes safe and secure, until the garden gate was kicked in and poison pushed through the bars of the pen.

I think not only this man, but anyone violently abusing an animal should never be allowed to own another one. Ever. Of any description.

Once is one time too many - and he, and others like him, forfeit their right to own an animal from that point onward.

There have been a few studies that show there is a link between cruelty to animals, domestic violence and child abuse, or that there certainly can be. I haven't read them but it does seem fairly obvious that they might be inter-related.

It won't happen, but I think Zouma should be investigated because of this link. However, I'm just glad there's been a backlash against him - the fans booed every time he touched the ball. I hope it wasn't racism, just anger at his cruelty.

His place in France’s World Cup squad is now in doubt. France boss Didier Deschamps has condemned him. And Brigitte Bardot has filed a legal action against him. I think both France and the UK are increasing the sentencing to a maximum of five years.

He didn't just kick the cat - he slapped it, too. Odious man. He will understand now that actions have consequences.

Another cagefighter has offered him the opportunity too.
He has warned Zouma to stay out of his way if ever their paths cross.

They intend to play him again at the weekend.

They're not getting it, are they?

He should be banned from keeping animals for life, prosecuted, sacked and take up that cage fighters invitation.

OP seems to think that keeping cats in a locked outdoor pen for breeding purposes is ok. I beg to differ.

Charleygirl5

I do not believe for one minute that was the first time the cats were slapped and kicked. The first time he was caught perhaps. The full force of the law should be thrown at him and I was pleased to see he was fined £250,000 which will hit his bank account.

I suppose if this country is dealing with the case France will not be able to do any more. He is despicable as is West Ham for playing him and stating today he was still able to play the next match. Football obviously comes first.

It really won’t as that is only two weeks wages for him …?

Well, in a way, perhaps it is best to keep him in the public eye?
It reminds people of what a thug he is.

I do not believe for one minute that was the first time the cats were slapped and kicked. The first time he was caught perhaps. The full force of the law should be thrown at him and I was pleased to see he was fined £250,000 which will hit his bank account.

I suppose if this country is dealing with the case France will not be able to do any more. He is despicable as is West Ham for playing him and stating today he was still able to play the next match. Football obviously comes first.