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To think that Kurt Zouma should be banned from keeping animals after abusing his cat?

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DeeJaysMum Fri 11-Feb-22 17:08:06

Just that really.

I know someone who used to be a (hobby) cat breeder and had trouble with local kids who poisoned/killed a couple of their cats.

They involved the rspca who, because they couldn't 'prove exactly' which youth had done it, prosecuted them for not keeping their cats safe (despite them being on their property, in a locked pen and behind 2 locked gates).

The rspca seized this person's cats, went to court 9 months later, asked the court to make the breeder pay boarding fees for 14 cats for 9 months and to give them a ban. Fortunately the boarding fees weren't upheld but a fine and a ban for 5yrs was imposed.

This was a respectable breeder who followed all legislation and GCCF (cat version of Kennel Club) rules and did absolutely nothing wrong.

When I look at the abuse that Zouma committed, then compare it with this breeder, imo he deserves, at the very least, the same punishment handed down to the breeder.

The fact that he is a famous footballer should not mean that he or his pets should be treated any differently to the rest of us. His pets deserve to be treated with respect (the same as yours and mine) and he deserves to be punished in exactly the same way as anyone else would be.

Thoughts..

Philomena66 Fri 11-Feb-22 17:20:31

I think anyone that did what he did should be prosecuted. He is a high profile Footballer and should be leading by example, of which that is not.

Hetty58 Fri 11-Feb-22 17:32:53

Yes, I'd really like to see him prosecuted and banned for what he did. I believe his cats have been taken from him - good and hope they find kind new homes.

Sarnia Fri 11-Feb-22 17:40:23

I don't think he should be allowed to keep animals of any sort ever again, otherwise what message does that send to others? West Ham have been woeful in their handling of this matter. David Moyes, their manager, decided to play Zouma in their mid-week match saying he was an important part of the team. To me that says football comes above everything else, which it most certainly should not and I am a football fan.

Floriel Fri 11-Feb-22 17:51:38

Deejaysmum, what you say about the RSPCA doesn’t surprise me at all. My friend had a knock on the door - literally - because a mad old lady down the road turned her in for ‘mistreating’ her much-loved cat. Letting it out of the house, in fact. They really gave her a grilling and it was only when they found out that she was a veterinary nurse that they backed off! I meanwhile rang them about some very neglected ponies in a field and they wouldn’t even turn up. Intimidated by the type of owners, I suspect.

Shinamae Fri 11-Feb-22 17:54:18

This…

Oldbat1 Fri 11-Feb-22 17:55:28

Animal cruelty in my mind is one step away from Child cruelty.
1. What goes through anyone’s mind to deliberately do such a thing?
2. What message is the young child getting from this?
3. What possessed anyone to film this and post it online - obviously preplanned?

Yes he deserves to be prosecuted and banned from animal keeping for a period of time. He is “Role model”.

Lizbethann55 Fri 11-Feb-22 18:00:06

Was he sorry he did it, or just sorry he got caught? He obviously meant to do it. He had set up his brother to film it and he was actually laughing at the time. And his small son was watching. Just what sort of man does that?? Anyone who hasn't seen it should watch it, just to see how horrific it was. The police have no excuse to not prosecute him. Footballers are looked up to and revered by many small boys. They must learn that no one should ever behave like this.

FannyCornforth Fri 11-Feb-22 18:06:48

He’s obviously not right in the head for so many reasons

SeaNain Fri 11-Feb-22 18:08:31

There are currently two petitions for this event, one for rspca prosecution, one for West ham to sack him. I've signed both.
Personally as a nan of one teenager who is football bad, I personally think West ham should sack him, preferably using legal systems to ensure he has no financial recompense whatsoever. Hopefully his football career, at whatever level is over soon.

MissAdventure Fri 11-Feb-22 18:18:39

I think anyone treating an animal badly should be prosecuted, and banned from keeping pets again.
Whether that is through neglect, or outright cruelty.

It really is time this sort of behaviour was taken seriously.

I also think social services should be investigating exactly what kind of home his children are being bought up in.

Sarnia Fri 11-Feb-22 18:22:23

SeaNain

There are currently two petitions for this event, one for rspca prosecution, one for West ham to sack him. I've signed both.
Personally as a nan of one teenager who is football bad, I personally think West ham should sack him, preferably using legal systems to ensure he has no financial recompense whatsoever. Hopefully his football career, at whatever level is over soon.

France have recently passed a law where the likes of Kurt Zouma, being a French national, could receive a 5 year prison sentence for animal cruelty, although the crime wasn't committed in France. Otherwise if he gets away with it what message does that give to young lads like your GS?

FindingNemo15 Fri 11-Feb-22 18:23:12

Totally agree with MissAdventure. Disgusting human being. Life long ban definitely.

Aveline Fri 11-Feb-22 18:47:31

Oh yes. Prosecute him at once. Animal cruelty is simply unacceptable. angry

Lizbethann55 Fri 11-Feb-22 18:54:53

Just seen on the news that David Moyes says that Zouma is available to be picked to play this weekend. It would appear that provided he can score goals for West Ham, the fact that he has been practising on his pet cat doesn't matter. I always thought David Moyes was a decent bloke. I was obviously wrong.

Charleygirl5 Fri 11-Feb-22 19:00:56

I do not believe for one minute that was the first time the cats were slapped and kicked. The first time he was caught perhaps. The full force of the law should be thrown at him and I was pleased to see he was fined £250,000 which will hit his bank account.

I suppose if this country is dealing with the case France will not be able to do any more. He is despicable as is West Ham for playing him and stating today he was still able to play the next match. Football obviously comes first.

MissAdventure Fri 11-Feb-22 19:01:43

Well, in a way, perhaps it is best to keep him in the public eye?
It reminds people of what a thug he is.

Shinamae Fri 11-Feb-22 19:09:18

Charleygirl5

I do not believe for one minute that was the first time the cats were slapped and kicked. The first time he was caught perhaps. The full force of the law should be thrown at him and I was pleased to see he was fined £250,000 which will hit his bank account.

I suppose if this country is dealing with the case France will not be able to do any more. He is despicable as is West Ham for playing him and stating today he was still able to play the next match. Football obviously comes first.

It really won’t as that is only two weeks wages for him …😡

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 11-Feb-22 20:01:24

OP seems to think that keeping cats in a locked outdoor pen for breeding purposes is ok. I beg to differ.

Smileless2012 Fri 11-Feb-22 20:06:57

He should be banned from keeping animals for life, prosecuted, sacked and take up that cage fighters invitation.

Callistemon21 Fri 11-Feb-22 20:08:40

They intend to play him again at the weekend.

They're not getting it, are they?

MissAdventure Fri 11-Feb-22 20:10:38

Another cagefighter has offered him the opportunity too.
He has warned Zouma to stay out of his way if ever their paths cross.

Dickens Fri 11-Feb-22 20:18:59

I think not only this man, but anyone violently abusing an animal should never be allowed to own another one. Ever. Of any description.

Once is one time too many - and he, and others like him, forfeit their right to own an animal from that point onward.

There have been a few studies that show there is a link between cruelty to animals, domestic violence and child abuse, or that there certainly can be. I haven't read them but it does seem fairly obvious that they might be inter-related.

It won't happen, but I think Zouma should be investigated because of this link. However, I'm just glad there's been a backlash against him - the fans booed every time he touched the ball. I hope it wasn't racism, just anger at his cruelty.

His place in France’s World Cup squad is now in doubt. France boss Didier Deschamps has condemned him. And Brigitte Bardot has filed a legal action against him. I think both France and the UK are increasing the sentencing to a maximum of five years.

He didn't just kick the cat - he slapped it, too. Odious man. He will understand now that actions have consequences.

DeeJaysMum Fri 11-Feb-22 20:32:51

@Germanshepherdsmum

OP seems to think that keeping cats in a locked outdoor pen for breeding purposes is ok. I beg to differ.

I think you'll find that the majority of breeders keep their sires separately from their queens and usually in outdoor catteries or pens, partially so they don't impregnate queens when the breeder doesn't want it happening and because entire males spray to mark territory. No-one wants an entire male spraying all around the house.

I've known this person for a great many years and know exactly how well they cared for their cats, on this occasion there were 2 cats in the pen and a group of local youths had been intimidating the breeder, their child and causing criminal damage to the breeder's home, so it was pretty much a certainty that these youths were the culprits.

So no, the breeder was not at fault in any way, shape or form, the cats were, to all intents and purposes safe and secure, until the garden gate was kicked in and poison pushed through the bars of the pen.

Shinamae Fri 11-Feb-22 20:48:37

And this..