To think that Kurt Zouma should be banned from keeping animals after abusing his cat?

He’s not playing, or on the bench.

Westham fans having a singalong.
Scumbags.

youtu.be/3NQwzkLn_x4

He (Todd) said: 'I wholeheartedly apologise to the horse

The horse said, it's ok, next time I'll throw you off.

This Todd person is a New Zealander and lives over there.
It happened years ago, apparently.

In the meantime - should Zouma play today or be suspended or sacked?

vegansrock

Presumably this Todd low life is part of the “horse world”. Maybe by circulating this sort of video something will get done. Lots of laughing in the background on this video so he was getting support.

Perhaps they were hoping the horse would throw him into the water!

That ghastly woman punching her horse got sacked so that's something. I don't get this "role model" stuff, it is just as cruel whether this guy was a footballer or not.

Presumably this Todd low life is part of the “horse world”. Maybe by circulating this sort of video something will get done. Lots of laughing in the background on this video so he was getting support.

I don’t know who Sir Mark Todd is

Me neither and I doubt many young people have ever heard of him either so that is rather a red herring. If the RSPCA or horse world think it needs to be dealt with it will.

Zouma is a famous footballer, a role model for youngsters and he and his brother were laughing as they abused the cat - then thought it would be fun to post the evidence on social media as if they were proud of themselves.

I don’t know who Sir Mark Todd is but here’s a video of him whipping a terrified horse to force it into the water. This won’t get as much outrage as a footballer but let’s hope it gets some attention.
I hope he will get similar fines/outrage/RSPCA investigations as ongoing for Kurt Zouma.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505319/Sir-Mark-Todd-caught-whipping-horse-branch-TEN-times-make-water-obstacle.html

If anybody wants to send their own protest. This was mine I had no idea where the q came from!

In truth though, he must have had loads of death threats etc
Animal cruelty + footballer x internet = ? ? ?

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It’s also the fact that he’s a bloody role model and up to his neck in cash.
The optics are just awful.
And West Han thinking that they can just brush it under the carpet.
They have really misread the situation.
Meanwhile it is quite heartening to see how the vast majority of the public are reacting to this disgusting debacle

Farzanah

I do agree with you FannyC it’s what humans are like and of course I am no better.
However as a carnivore I am currently wrestling with my conscience about eating other sentient beings, and I have become more aware of our double standards.
Shinamae. I am struggling with the idea that breeding animals purely to feed us is not cruel.

I agree with you and have watched some absolutely awful videos filmed secretly in slaughter houses. I have also seen documentaries of how China treats their animals, skinning them alive,the Yulin festival, so I have not got my head in the sand about animal cruelty.. I have signed many petitions and donate to many animal charities, lately the pangolin and the bears kept in cages to extract bile. So I am not saying that it is not cruel but this thread particularly is about that awful footballer and his cruelty to his pets

I do agree with you FannyC it’s what humans are like and of course I am no better.
However as a carnivore I am currently wrestling with my conscience about eating other sentient beings, and I have become more aware of our double standards.
Shinamae. I am struggling with the idea that breeding animals purely to feed us is not cruel.

Good grief, I have just read that Moyes has said he will play that moron today, what a disgrace he is.

So do I Shinamae

Moyes definitely hasn’t done himself any favours.
I think that this has the potential to backfire for him big style?

lavendermine

I have today email West Ham again and also the Football Association.

Moyes and Brady are an absolute disgrace. Moyes should be fired.

I hope the legal route taken by Bridge Bardot's Association is successful and this moron is sent back to France. We DO NOT want him here.

I totally agree ????????

I have today email West Ham again and also the Football Association.

Moyes and Brady are an absolute disgrace. Moyes should be fired.

I hope the legal route taken by Bridge Bardot's Association is successful and this moron is sent back to France. We DO NOT want him here.

The match is on Sky at 4.30

Shinamae

I have been waiting to hear what Karen Brady says now here it is…????

Dreadful response. At the very least he should be suspended while the Police and RSPCA continue with their investigations. West Ham Utd are normally a mid-table team so being 4th in the league at the moment has the potential to open some very lucrative doors to them and that is what Brady's response is all about. Money, league position and trophies are far more important than kicking a cat. She won't come out and say that directly but read between the lines and that's exactly what she's said. Zouma is one of their best players and I fully expect him to play against Leicester City today.

Farzanah

We are such a hypocritical nation. We are sentimental about animals but eat them and feed our pets animals (made into feed). What is wrong with us?
I don’t condone animal cruelty at all but we have to be consistent.
What’s the difference between eating a cat or dog and cow or sheep?

Unfortunately it’s human nature.
We are all hypocrites to one extent or another.
And we are sentimental creatures. It’s in our biology. Most of us have a nurturing impulse and react to protect the innocent.

I haven’t read the full thread, but from lots of personal experience, I can say that the RSPCA are a dead loss, and annoyingly almost literally made of money.

They were discussing on LBC this morning whether this will just eventually ‘blow over’.
I cannot see that happening at all.
It will be interesting to see what happens at Leicester today.