Assigned female at birth

The NHS explains very clearly what gender dysphoria is

It also states that trans men may not be called for screening if they have changed their name but that trans women will be called for breast screening should they have transitioned far enough to grow breast tissue.

I don't know why it doesn't mention prostate checks so I might see if there is a way to contact someone and ask if there is a reason for that I don't understand.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/

Galaxy

We arent ignoring them. I have told you a thousand and one times now.

See trisher, we aren’t ignoring them. How many times does it take?

Doodledog very clear post yet again ???

trisher

Mollygo

FarNorth Thanks for posting the link.

It’s amazing how women were persecuted by men in the past and are still being persecuted by men and some women who support the patriarchy and it’s still not seen as wrong.

So what would you do about transmen Mollygo I'm really interested to have it all explained to me. Personally I support their right to define themselves as they wish, to ask that their gender choice be respected and that any healthcare they need should treat them as the gender they ask.
So explain to me how ignoring them does anything at all to the patriarchy.

... an invitation to a trans man, or a woman, can be worded in exactly the same way... "you are invited for your cervical screening test".

Both trans men and some women, for various reasons, do not have one any longer in which case you just call and say so. It's neutral and therefore inclusive.

And nurses now, when they take down your details, usually ask, "how do you wish to be referred to?", or "what name do you want us to use?", and you tell them and they respect your choice. And that's it.

What needs explaining, trisher. I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll have a go:

A transman is a woman who identifies as a man.

Women have cervixes, so transmen have cervices.

Cervixes can become cancerous, and smear tests can detect cervical cancer, so women are called for the tests.

Transmen, if they are being called for tests, must be on doctors' records as female, as that is what they are, so will be invited to attend for a test.

If they are not listed with a GP (perhaps because of moving house) their NHS number will identify them, but in any case they will be aware that their bodies are female whatever is going on in their heads.

Having made the decision to 'identify' as male, I assume that transmen will have considered their biology as much as, if not more than, the women who will also be invited for testing, so are at least, if not more likely to be aware of what a cervix is, and the fact that they have one.

So they are included in the invitations, and are at no more risk of cancer than other women. They are not being ignored, and they get the healthcare they need.

Have a missed anything?

trisher

Mollygo

FarNorth Thanks for posting the link.

It’s amazing how women were persecuted by men in the past and are still being persecuted by men and some women who support the patriarchy and it’s still not seen as wrong.

So what would you do about transmen Mollygo I'm really interested to have it all explained to me. Personally I support their right to define themselves as they wish, to ask that their gender choice be respected and that any healthcare they need should treat them as the gender they ask.
So explain to me how ignoring them does anything at all to the patriarchy.

trisher only females have a cervix, only males have a prostate

All people should be able to access healthcare and screening appropriate to their sex.

We arent ignoring them. I have told you a thousand and one times now.

Mollygo

FarNorth Thanks for posting the link.

It’s amazing how women were persecuted by men in the past and are still being persecuted by men and some women who support the patriarchy and it’s still not seen as wrong.

So what would you do about transmen Mollygo I'm really interested to have it all explained to me. Personally I support their right to define themselves as they wish, to ask that their gender choice be respected and that any healthcare they need should treat them as the gender they ask.
So explain to me how ignoring them does anything at all to the patriarchy.

FarNorth Thanks for posting the link.

It’s amazing how women were persecuted by men in the past and are still being persecuted by men and some women who support the patriarchy and it’s still not seen as wrong.

FarNorth

^If you don’t recognise yourself as a “cervix haver” you are unlikely to attend your smear test. Cervix is an uncommon word describing a hidden body part so unless “woman” is used to invite women to screening those with learning disabilities, dyslexia, English as a second language or lower education attainment are excluded. Some of them might then die of cervical cancer. I don’t think that is ok.^

thecritic.co.uk/women-wont-wheesht/

I don't think it is Ok for anyone to die of cervical cancer FarNorth and that includes transmen. There are heaps of women who won't understand what a cervix is, and actually don't need to understand what a cervix is just that they are invited and need to attend a smear test. It doesn't matter if they understand the biology just the medical need.

If you don’t recognise yourself as a “cervix haver” you are unlikely to attend your smear test. Cervix is an uncommon word describing a hidden body part so unless “woman” is used to invite women to screening those with learning disabilities, dyslexia, English as a second language or lower education attainment are excluded. Some of them might then die of cervical cancer. I don’t think that is ok.

thecritic.co.uk/women-wont-wheesht/

Sorry, [email protected].

t @12:18
Of course Starmer was saying transmen have a cervix.
The thing is he didn’t, and if he didn’t, why didn’t he?
Lack of biological knowledge?
Fear of attack of the sort that JKR, Mya Forstater and Kathleen Stock suffered for telling the truth?
Why leave such an easy answer unused, leaving him open to ridicule and his party open to criticism?

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Bridgeit making people laugh would probably be half the battle won lol

Best to have regular health checks which or whatever ‘ bits ‘ we have or have assigned , reassigned .
And Instead of using medical/ clinical terms perhaps use a preferred nickname .
I believe ‘ little John Thomas ‘ used to be popular back in the day .

trisher trans men see themselves as men so it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as there are those who are willing to allow them to be their authentic selves while still making sure they receive the right medical care.

I do hope not Mollygo.

Iam64

There’s no need to take such a sneary, unpleasant tone trisher. Well said, but you may well be cancelled. Oops, sorry, deleted.

I would say it is transmen who have become my main area of concern because of what it happening with detransitioners and the links with autism and trauma in women and girls. I have spent 30 years working with children with autism I cant tell you how many times the systems let them down.

There’s no need to take such a sneary, unpleasant tone trisher.

Your disdain for gender critical feminists is clear. You’re understanding gender critical is wrong, or IMO it’s wrong. I M istrust transactivists . Aggressive, abusive men in a frock who threaten women with verbal threats, like the ‘you’ll be raped to death’. I struggle to understand why some of their supporters don’t see they’re contributing to the silencing, the pushing of women and girls to the margins.
Handmaidens of the patriarchy (thanks for that Doodledog)

If one group of women can be rendered unable to discuss their interests, and have their rights to safely, privacy and dignity eroded, another lot can be as well. It's one of the reasons I so distrust TRAs, particularly the handmaidens of the patriarchy.

Galaxy

Your understanding of gender critical and transmen is wrong though trisher as I have pointed out about a thousand times.
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Your understanding of gender critical and transmen is wrong though trisher as I have pointed out about a thousand times.

Sorry fast finger should be believe and don't!