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To have been upset by this encounter today

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Beswitched Sat 19-Mar-22 19:53:48

A young mum was having a go at an elderly man who had parked in a p&c space. He was trying to explain he had a blue badge and I could also see an elderly woman in the car beside him
He remained courteous throughout while she became shriller and shriller. I complained to customer services and they said they would sort it out.

But what makes people behave like this? It was so rude, aggressive and unkind.

As I was leaving the man's car was in the space and the self entitled young mother had presumably been told to park elsewhere.

MissAdventure Tue 22-Mar-22 08:13:15

Mobility problems then, caused by pregnancy.
Well, mobility problems are generally why a disabled person needs extra room, so yes, no need for anyone to shout or scream at someone else.

Purplepoppies Tue 22-Mar-22 08:13:38

I always assumed blue badge spaces were a legal requirement and p&c spaces were a courtesy?
I think the need of the BB holder trumps p&c .
Nobody should be shouting at anyone in a carpark for goodness sake.

Beswitched Tue 22-Mar-22 09:05:38

I wonder if the provided extra wide spaces for those lifting children out of a car, but put them elsewhere in the car park would it help? Having them right up at the door seems unfair on other groups who might also benefit from a space close to the shop eg elderly people, those recovering from surgery etc

Granless Tue 22-Mar-22 09:13:58

....... and what about the car that parks in a p & c space ... it has a child seat in but no child!!!

Iam64 Tue 22-Mar-22 11:06:15

And on it goes, divide the generations, that’s such a positive way to live

Beswitched Tue 22-Mar-22 11:18:14

Granless

....... and what about the car that parks in a p & c space ... it has a child seat in but no child!!!

Or the parent that stays in the car with the children while the other parent goes into the shop.

I think just put them somewhere else in the car park and provide a walkway or footpath if necessary.

Hithere Tue 22-Mar-22 11:23:52

Who are we to judgementally prequalify in our minds who, how old, what conditions get the better parking spots?

Plenty of posters have shared their invisible disability and were screamed at.
Aren't they good enough?

VS parked in a P&C spot a work before giving birth - legitimately she had a child present - yet, that was not good enough
Sorry VS you had to go through it

How about a mother who is recovering from c section parking in a p&c spot with a child? Is she worthy of it?

The issue could be that there are not enough parking spots to accommodate special circumstances, so stores should make changes to accommodate that

What is going to be next? Blame the cars are too big? Families should be just content with X vs Y to make room for anybody else?

Where does this stop?

JaneJudge Tue 22-Mar-22 11:25:03

someone has already posted blaming cars that are too big grin

MissAdventure Tue 22-Mar-22 11:26:00

It stops when none of the groups mentioned feels entitled enough to shout at someone from another.
Because that is never acceptable.

JaneJudge Tue 22-Mar-22 11:28:38

I live by a big A road and I have witnessed so many accidents between cars pulling onto said road. You would not believe the amount of people that get out of their cars and shout at one another following an accident. It is so dangerous on top of already heightened emptions/shock. I don't know what is the matter with people.

JaneJudge Tue 22-Mar-22 11:29:34

The last time someone had an accident outside my house I made them something to eat/drink and let them use my loo confused

Hithere Tue 22-Mar-22 11:31:27

Entitlement instead if respect

Hithere Tue 22-Mar-22 11:40:45

There is always somebody who believes he/she deserves something more than the next person

Beswitched Tue 22-Mar-22 11:45:38

Hithere

Who are we to judgementally prequalify in our minds who, how old, what conditions get the better parking spots?

Plenty of posters have shared their invisible disability and were screamed at.
Aren't they good enough?

VS parked in a P&C spot a work before giving birth - legitimately she had a child present - yet, that was not good enough
Sorry VS you had to go through it

How about a mother who is recovering from c section parking in a p&c spot with a child? Is she worthy of it?

The issue could be that there are not enough parking spots to accommodate special circumstances, so stores should make changes to accommodate that

What is going to be next? Blame the cars are too big? Families should be just content with X vs Y to make room for anybody else?

Where does this stop?

Well it should certainly stop at people shouting and making scenes about parent and child spaces. Nine times out of ten those spaces are full anyway and you just have to manage without them. Which most of us do, with a bit of minor inconvenience.

A blue badge holder who can't get a space doesn't have the option of just parking somewhere else and making do. They have to go home without their shopping, or miss their appointment or whatever. Therefore someone taking up a disabled space when they don't need it is a serious infringement on another person's right.

Shouting about p&c spaces is at best rude and silly and at worst, totally lacking in empathy and compassion. I get that sometimes people are having a bad day, but it takes a certain type of person to lash out at somebody who is old and disabled.

Hithere Tue 22-Mar-22 11:57:35

"Shouting about p&c spaces is at best rude and silly and at worst, totally lacking in empathy and compassion."

Totally agree! Empathy and compassion goes both ways
A situation is silly or not depending on the eye of the beholder- aka the OP vs the mother

"I get that sometimes people are having a bad day, but it takes a certain type of person to lash out at somebody who is old and disabled."

Age and disability are not two words that are implied together.
It can hit anybody anytime.

Beswitched Tue 22-Mar-22 12:06:01

I agree Hithere. I was talking about the man in my situation who was both old and disabled and was being shouted down.

Teacheranne Tue 22-Mar-22 12:20:52

JaneJudge

Blue badges really aren't that easy to get. You have to qualify for higher rate DLA/PIP or AA and you also have to have supporting evidence in our local authority, even in the case of terminal illness.

In my local authority, you don’t have to be on any specific benefit and supporting evidence is not asked for but they do seem to do a lot of assessments. I genuinely cannot walk very far, I am in severe pain every step I take but am not on DLA or PIP although I think I could claim AA now as I do have to have help with cleaning and gardening.

After completing the AA form on behalf of my mum, I cannot face going through that experience again, the forms were twenty odd pages long with lots of repetitive questions, I almost gave up! In fact I did give up once when she was still living alone as the lower amount of £56 ( approx) just did not seem worth it but once she went into a care home as a self funder, she was entitled to the higher amount so I did give it another go.

JaneJudge Tue 22-Mar-22 12:27:36

Anne, there are organisations who can help you fill in the form.

Does this help too?

www.ageuk.org.uk/bp-assets/globalassets/torbay/original-blocks/our-services/ia/guide-on-how-to-complete-attendace-allowance-forms.pdf

VioletSky Tue 22-Mar-22 13:19:21

Empathy and compassion should go both ways...

Too many forget how dangerous it can be to navigate a busy car park with children.

Farzanah Tue 22-Mar-22 13:23:54

Yes, but you only have control over your own actions, however two way it should be.

jacksmum Tue 22-Mar-22 14:11:19

I get so annoyed at these people who think just because they have a baby/young child they should get special parking places, "in the old days" , we did not have these car seats that can go in/out of cars easily,we had to take baby out of car seat/carry cot on the back seat then put in a "big pram" if the car was lucky enough to be big enough to take the frame /wheels , if not then baby had to be carried around the shop while we tried to do our shopping, these days so many think its their right to park right next to a shop just because they have children with them

MissAdventure Tue 22-Mar-22 14:15:17

VioletSky

Empathy and compassion should go both ways...

Too many forget how dangerous it can be to navigate a busy car park with children.

Too many have no idea what it's like to have cancer in your breast, spine, pelvis, thighs, skull, lungs.
Arent they lucky?

My girl had that and more, but she never felt the need to scream and shout at others.

JaneJudge Tue 22-Mar-22 14:18:52

Oh MissA sad flowers

MissAdventure Tue 22-Mar-22 14:22:50

Well....
I do get fed up with people bleating about how hard it is.
If my daughter couldn't park close and get out of her car then she couldn't do stuff.
That includes picking up her child from school, shopping, all kinds of things.

MissAdventure Tue 22-Mar-22 14:26:23

The same at the school.
All the parents parked so close and up on verges and so on.
My girl and a dad who had his leg amputated to try and halt his cancer weren't able to pick their children up at all.