To think it's cruel to have a house cat?

In my eyes it’s very cruel because it’s totally alien and against the nature of a cat

It would be the equivalent of us sitting out side a window watching all the family have a slap up meal with lots of laughter and fun while we are shut out alone

If a cat refuses to go out it’s because they have been conditioned either as kittens or through a faulty gene cats love to explore, climb, jump, hunt, and socialise

It’s more of humans conditioning animals against their instincts to fit in with humans needs
Nasty stuff

I have just recently got an eight week old kitten, he will be a house cat, since I’ve lived here I have had two cats run over and I am not willing to risk this one, I might let him out in my garden but then I think I would get a run for him …

Here in the US, when you adopt and unless it is a barn cat, they pretty must request the cat is to be indoor only.
If not, they deny the adoption
They also demand for the cat to be spayed/neutered

That Bengal owner is very irresponsible and should not have a cat

It is for safety of cats and wild life

My cats are very happy and refuse to go outside. I open the door and they run inside.

One of my cats likes exploring and we take her for walks and rides - she refuses to go out w/o us

I know you don’t live opposite me, snowberry, but you could be describing my cat who sits on the front windowsill for the morning sun and the back bedroom windowsill in the afternoon. She will occasionally come downstairs and ask me to open the front door where she stands half in and half out, sniffing the air for an age with me getting inpatient, and in the winter shivering and thinking of my fuel bill. Mostly she then turns and runs back upstairs, but if she feels conditions are just right she might venture out to be found two minutes later at the back of the house on the kitchen windowsill asking to come in.

Over the years we've had cats that go out and also house cats. Our current two are rehomed house cats. They've never been out and don't show any sign of wanting to go out. They're sleepy old boys and seem happily contented.

Some cats shouldn’t be allowed out due being Positive to easily transmissible diseases to other cats. They would otherwise be required to be put to sleep. I think one disease is FIV but I cannot remember the other. My daughter has a house cat and she doesn’t seem to want to go out. We’ve always had cats since we’ve been married but as our cats have all lived to 18yrs at least it isn’t fair to take on another for our remaining lifetime. All our cats had free access via cat flap at all times.

I’ve always had cats and all have been outdoor cats but I think if cats have always been indoor cats they adapt very well. It’s unfair to criticise what people do. My Lily can go outdoors but she likes nothing better than sitting in the glass room watching the garden.

until I got him, not home!

I've always had cats (42 years) and they're always been allowed to go out, but kept in all night. I believe all animals should be able to see and feel the outdoors. As Terribull says, though - better to have an indoor cat than a neglected stray.

My old boy was feral until I got home. He's never caught a bird or mouse in the 11 years he's been with us.

Elizabeth27

I do not like to see any caged animals. Cats are obviously not happy as indoor cats as they will go out if given the chance.

Our last three cats have been rescue house cats and they are most definitely not unhappy! The first had a serious congenial heart condition and would have been euthanised if we had not taken her as a house cat.

The next were a pair who had never been outside and wouldn’t have thanked you for it. They never bother go to the doors. Or get out of windows. One has sadly died and the remaining one has kidney disease and is blind. All they ever wanted was to sit on us all day, draped round our necks or on our laps.

I do not like to see any caged animals. Cats are obviously not happy as indoor cats as they will go out if given the chance.

Thoro

Nesting birds think house cats are great!

I think cats should be made to wear a bell during nesting season. It would give some birds a chance. If not all.

I love cats, I don't have one right now due to family members with allergies In the past I lost a cat to a road accident even though we weren't living on a busy road at the time. Ideally I think cats would be free to roam but I wouldn't condemn anyone for having a house cat, better a loved house cat than a neglected stray, I imagine they adapt to their environment.

My family have always had cats. My granny lost many cats (she never knew how). My mum had an outside cat who would come and go, using a lift to get to my mum's floor when he couldn't be bothered to walk. I've had 8 cats. I've lost 4. 1 moved house, up the road. No problem there. But the other 3, went out and didn't return. It's heartbreaking, and I'm not going through that again.

I’ve never kept any of my cats in they were free to come and go as they pleased. Over my lifetime and many cats we only lost one to a road accident. Most lived to a very happy old age. So I don’t agree with house cats but everyone’s circumstances differ I guess.

I have a neighbour who has cats,and one will not venture out at all but seems happy to watch the other cats do their own thing.
He/she seems contented enough.
Can`t see the problem tbh.

Nesting birds think house cats are great!

I wonder what most vets think?
They must see their fair share of cats who have had car accidents.

When we got cats from Cats Protection we had a visit from a very earnest woman who made us promise never to let them out at night as “bad things happen to cats out in the dark”. She wasn’t really happy about them leaving the house at all, even though we’re surrounded by fields. After a few nights of one of them yowling and butting at the locked cat flap we went back on our solemn word.

I agree that it’s cruel for some. That particular cat would be out adventuring much of the day and most of the night and just appear for food and a long sleep occasionally. He’d also come in to use the litter tray, then dash back out. We’ve had others who’ve chosen just to go into the garden for a bit of sun and scuttle back if a leaf rustled.

A cat flap is a wonderful thing.

I think letting the cat out into the garden at the very least, means the cat gets to experience fresh air and the feel of earth and grass underfoot.

But then most cats can scale a 6ft fence no problem.
You would have to have really high fences and for the garden to be ultra secure

We lost our last cat when he was run over by a car .When we got the two kittens we have now we decided they would be house cats ,we changed our minds .We get as much joy out of watching them chase squirrels up trees and run over garage roofs and think they're big cats in the jungle stalking prey as they do.They are very happy cats .Confining them would ,in my opinion,be cruel.They are nearly 4 now and I've losy count of the times theres been a kind soul at my door to tell me theres a cat sitting on my roof...lol.If they can get up they'll manage tp get down

My 2 cats are rescue cats. The alternatives to making them house cats would have been, 1) leaving them as strays, 2) putting them down.

My solution isn't perfect, but I think it's better than the two other options.

On the other side of the coin, in my nieghbourhood, there is a very expensive, unneutered male, purebreed Bengal (absolutely gorgeous) allowed out. He patrols the neighbourhood, yowling. So far, he's OK, but sooner or later he's either going to get stolen, get into a severe fight or killed by a car.

If they go in the garden then they are not true housecats.
I'm talking about people who never let their cats out at all.

My DS and DiL have indoor cats but they do go out in their garden and never venture beyond.
They seem quite happy.