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AIBU? Provocative sweatshirt.

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Sago Tue 12-Apr-22 09:44:12

At Faro airport yesterday a family were queuing in front us at check in, the daughter was about 13/14 she was wearing a sweatshirt with the logo “ I ?BJ’s” …on the back it says “salty but sweet”.
My husband and I were really shocked.

The bar has sweatshirts for very young children but without the wording on the back just the name and location..

Callistemon21 Tue 12-Apr-22 17:14:29

SueDonim

Maybe the parents don’t understand the meaning of BJ!

Especially if they'd been to the restaurant on The Algarve of that name and enjoyed a meal there. grin Salty and sweet popcorn perhaps?

They were on their way home from Portugal at Faro Airport.

Callistemon21 Tue 12-Apr-22 17:17:02

I never knew b* meant that, no wonder my DD asked me not to use it.
Me neither, mokryna
Well, I've heard it but didn't connect it at all.

Gransnet is so informative.
We must have led sheltered lives ?

I'm beginning to feel a bit sorry for Boris Johnson.

mokryna Tue 12-Apr-22 19:43:00

Callistemon21

^I never knew b* meant that, no wonder my DD asked me not to use it.^
Me neither, mokryna
Well, I've heard it but didn't connect it at all.

Gransnet is so informative.
We must have led sheltered lives ?

I'm beginning to feel a bit sorry for Boris Johnson.

I recounted this incident to a friend of mine and we both came to the conclusion she was being a bit fussy. Can’t wait to tell her when we meet up next time ?

Callistemon21 Tue 12-Apr-22 19:43:56

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Vintagejazz Tue 12-Apr-22 19:53:38

Gosh the professionaly and determinably unoffended are out in force.

Of course she shouldn't have been wearing that. What were her parents thinking?

TerriBull Tue 12-Apr-22 20:20:02

I remember buying something in French Connection years ago when they started that FCUK campaign, which I wasn't aware of at the time. When the shop assistant put my item of clothing in their bag brandishing that logo, I told them "no thanks", I'll put whatever it was I'd bought in another bag I had with me. Then one of my kids bought a FCUK t shirt and put it on to go down with me to my mothers, I think I told him " it's bad enough you've bought that, but please don't wear it out with me, least of all to your grandmother's who will have ten pink fits if she sees that!" I got a shouty Kevin response but eventually he slunk off to change into a Nivarna t shirt which was quite innocuous by comparison. This latest one sounds far worse, if that's at all possible shock

Blondiescot Tue 12-Apr-22 20:24:21

You wouldn't want to see my Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve and Talent t-shirt then...

Sago Tue 12-Apr-22 20:53:16

BlondieScot That is even worse. Disgusting.

Dickens Tue 12-Apr-22 20:57:11

The worst logo I've seen was on a T shirt worn by a middle-aged American woman.

You can grab my pussy anytime you like Mr Trump

I was assured, when I made a derogatory comment about the 'trend' (there are other T shirts with a variation on the theme) that I lacked a sense of humour and needed to "get a life".

Maybe I am too insular in my outlook, although I think of myself as being quite liberal-minded - one of the 'live-and-let-live' brigade... but surely I'm not the only one who worries that women are being conned into colluding with their own sexual oppression, abuse, and exploitation with such T shirt logos?

And who is orchestrating this trend? Clever advertising agents who tap into the 'liberated woman' mindset to kid women that it's cool to boast that you 'love' BJs? Is it women themselves trying to prove their 'freethinking', unconstrained credentials?

Is it really clever and cool to promote the tendencies of older men in positions of power to believe they can grope women - especially younger women - if they feel like it? I really would like someone to seriously comment on why this 'fashion' is not offensive, and why my reaction is wrong. I'm not OK with it, and I think women are being duped into accepting it - but maybe I'm wrong... what am I missing?

Blondiescot Tue 12-Apr-22 21:09:36

Sago

BlondieScot That is even worse. Disgusting.

Not a RuPaul's Drag Race fan then?

GrandmasueUK Tue 12-Apr-22 21:18:49

Oh dear, in Portuguese, BJ is short for Beijinhos, which means little kisses. My Portuguese family and friends use it all the time and no-one is in the slightest bit offended!

Dickens Tue 12-Apr-22 21:28:57

GrandmasueUK

Oh dear, in Portuguese, BJ is short for Beijinhos, which means little kisses. My Portuguese family and friends use it all the time and no-one is in the slightest bit offended!

Well who would be offended by 'little kisses'?

I'm sure you're aware that the logo was deliberately ambiguous?

JdotJ Wed 13-Apr-22 11:53:32

Common trash

DerbyshireLass Wed 13-Apr-22 12:16:04

Dickens.....I don't think you are wrong.

Your post is a very fair summing up of how some women, teenage girls and even young children are being duped and encouraged to wear clothes that portray them as sex objects.

Treetops05 Wed 13-Apr-22 12:19:52

Disgusting on a child.

Athenia Wed 13-Apr-22 12:36:58

But let’s face it, this is an aspect of the stealthy sexualisation of our society, a real breakdown in moral standards.
The extent to which it has gone really came home to me recently when I was reading a description of the wonderful Wormwood Scrubs Pony Centre, run by the saintlike Mary Joy.
She includes the phrase in a description of her aims ‘to preserve the innocence of our children’. When did we last hear about this vital aspect of our rôle as adults?
We are right to be concerned about the casual use of sexual terms by adolescent girls on their clothing.
Sexuality is being promoted to children as never before. We can do all in our power to point out the need to preserve the innocence of our children. Childhood is short enough in this computer obsessed age.
Let us stay aware that this is indeed a flagrant breakdown of the values of a civilised society, and do all we can to prevent it.

Alioop Wed 13-Apr-22 12:42:47

It not nice at all on a child of that age, but seeing different Portuguese BJ explanations, the restaurant, etc; it's maybe just a double entendre, but doesn't look good when you don't understand what it actually stands for.

MickyD Wed 13-Apr-22 12:54:39

Completely inappropriate, especially on a teenager!! A woman I used to know years ago let her 8 year old daughter go into town with friends (same age) wearing a t-shirt with the logo ‘FCUK ME’. Absolutely shocking and irresponsible.

StoneofDestiny Wed 13-Apr-22 13:01:53

Idiot parents

Hithere Wed 13-Apr-22 13:19:52

So much judging, as usual, none of anybody's business

There is a wholesale supermarket in the US called BJ's, kids with their name starting with B + Junior may get shortened to BJ, Bon Jovi (the group)....

I think it shows more where some posters' minds are and how closed to other possibilities

I was in an event with lots of kids and a young adult was wearing a tshirt referencing a porn website - questionable? Yes! Worth clutching my pearls? Not at all

Nannina Wed 13-Apr-22 13:50:30

Me too! Thought I’d missed some new young fad

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 13-Apr-22 13:52:35

Didn’t you see what was written on the back ? That’s what tells you what it was really about.

MissAdventure Wed 13-Apr-22 13:58:18

Of course it is meant to insinuate the term blow job.
That's the whole idea.

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 13-Apr-22 13:59:08

Oh, Dickens the Trump t shirt gets my vote for being the most tasteless.

NoddingGanGan Wed 13-Apr-22 14:15:09

I despair of standards today!
BJ's is clearly a possessive, referring to something belonging to someone, or something, called BJ. Blow Jobs is a plural and would therefore be abbreviated to BJs.
And I would be the kind of parent to allow my daughter to wear such a t-shirt to catch out the linguistically challenged!
Oh, and anyone who thinks that any 13 year-olds of today don't know what a BJ is, is sadly deluding themselves.