to feel sad that the Queen looks so frail.

Parsley3

What has the Queen done for us?

She has long reigned over us which is deemed to be laudable.
Perhaps someone can give me an other example of something she has done.

Still waiting, aren't we Parsley3.

Clearly we just have to "know". Because its obvious. Apparently.

What have Mary Robinson or Mary McAleese done that betters Queen Elizabeth's lifetime of service?

Mary Robinson: theelders.org/profile/mary-robinson

Mary McAleese: www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-exemplary-presidency-1.9728

re McAleese: These efforts culminated, of course, with the moving visit of Queen Elizabeth to Ireland, an occasion made much more comfortable for most Irish people by the way Mrs McAleese herself showed, in her manner and deportment, that an elected head of state can match a monarch in dignity and gravitas.

Both links worth reading.

What has the Queen done for us?

She has long reigned over us which is deemed to be laudable.
Perhaps someone can give me an other example of something she has done.

maddyone

I have thought long and hard about the monarchy, and despite enjoying the ceremonies of state when I see them on television, I’ve gradually come to the conclusion that the monarchy is an outdated institution, and that in order to be properly democratic we need to elect our Head of State. Jobs would still be provided because there would still be a lot of burocracy and state events.

I agree with you and I feel deeply uncomfortable to drive past people queuing to get food from food banks in my nearest town every day and also having to sit in meetings about my own vulnerable adult child whilst that family lives with such wealth paid for by minions

I don't care if that makes me have a chip on my shoulder the size of a Simnel cake or if I smell faintly of marzipan

volver

Sorry, I don't feel blessed to have had her as queen. I don't understand why we should feel blessed? I'd much rather have Mary McAleese or Mary Robertson as Head of State.

And no-one is irreplaceable.

What have Mary Robinson or Mary McAleese done that betters Queen Elizabeth's lifetime of service?

Like I said I'm not a monarchist. But I suspect she would have been far happier having children, looking after dogs etc in the country than having this role thrust upon her.

But she did the best she could, with dignity, discretion and grace.

I have thought long and hard about the monarchy, and despite enjoying the ceremonies of state when I see them on television, I’ve gradually come to the conclusion that the monarchy is an outdated institution, and that in order to be properly democratic we need to elect our Head of State. Jobs would still be provided because there would still be a lot of burocracy and state events.

mulberry7

I'm Irish, and I think Queen Elizabeth is a wonderful person, who has worked tirelessly for her country, a true patriot. I've watched her through the years, and thought how hard it must have been to have to be always in the public eye, and never set a foot wrong in the eyes of the world. I truly think she is a marvel and you have all been truly blessed by having her as your queen. The grief of losing her husband has probably done more harm to her than Covid. She is irreplaceable, God bless her.

Mulberry your post reminds me of my friend's mum who was a dead ringer for the Queen when we were growing up, so much so, if she'd been around now she could have been one of those Lookie Likies and got paid for it. However, she was Irish through and through so probably couldn't have pulled the accent off. She was very aware of the resemblance and really liked the fact that so many people told her so. Friend always told me her mum would be glued to the telly whenever The Queen appeared just so she could make sure her general appearance was still mirroring her to an extent, hair and stuff that is, not the tiaras!

Germanshepherdsmum

Nothing that someone with your views would recognise.

You are so rude. Really.

Fa stole yer scone?

Thankyou Mulberry Lovely Post.

Nothing that someone with your views would recognise.

Oh that was quick

What has she done for us, please? Serious question.

Thank you mulberry. It's a great shame that some for whom she is Head of State don't acknowledge what she has done over her long reign.

Sorry, I don't feel blessed to have had her as queen. I don't understand why we should feel blessed? I'd much rather have Mary McAleese or Mary Robertson as Head of State.

And no-one is irreplaceable.

I'm Irish, and I think Queen Elizabeth is a wonderful person, who has worked tirelessly for her country, a true patriot. I've watched her through the years, and thought how hard it must have been to have to be always in the public eye, and never set a foot wrong in the eyes of the world. I truly think she is a marvel and you have all been truly blessed by having her as your queen. The grief of losing her husband has probably done more harm to her than Covid. She is irreplaceable, God bless her.

Certainly is , never mind.

Ain't that the truth.

Some do not like or want to acknowledge them , facts that is .

One day, we need to have a chat about what "facts" are. ??‍♀️

But not today.

Well it’s a Fact.

Oh yes. Not having a Royal family would be just like closing a factory.

That would never do.

Wouldn’t bother some folks .

How bland our country would be if its history & events were swept away to appease those who find it offensive.
The RF do still have a part to play,., & let’s not forget if they go so do thousands of jobs across country… but I guess that would bother some folks.

Actually, I was born in the reign of George VI, but I know what you mean when you say she has always been there.

No, I shall neither feel sad, nor miss her, but devoutly thankful that she has finally finished her course. I cannot find it in my heart to grieve for anyone of 95 or over who dies.

I missed my mother (born a day after the Queen) when she died at the age of 75 , but am very thankful indeed that I have not had to worry about her health for the last 20 years!

I wonder whether my contemporaries in the Royal Family might not have enjoyed their lives, and spent the last 20 years more productively, if their parents hadn't lived so extraordinarily long?

I wish my own mother had lived as long as the Queen, she had a resemblance to her and it seems so long since my mother died at 78.
I do respect her for what appears, in the main, to be a very boring position, but a President could easily carry out these duties.
I believe the expense of running a royal family and their numerous castles and houses, security etc is far greater than we realise and unnecessary. The duchy estates need looking into as well…
I’m afeared at the reception Camilla will receive if and when Charles is crowned, but I may not be here, the Queen may still be plodding on.

paddyann54

For those complaining I'm DISRESPECTFUL ,can I just say you are absolutely right.I have never felt any respect for any Royal .The whole system fills me with distaste .Quite why everyone is expected to be broken hearted over a very privileged old woman who hasn't ACTUALLY worked her whole life is ridiculous and she has been overpaid for doing it.If ALL old people had been treated with just a smidgeon of the care she has it would be a far better country.

Instead we hand hundreds of millions every year to her to keep her brood in the style THEY think they are entitled to!

As Volver said Independence for Scotland and the monarchy are two seperate issues and will be a question for US when we gain our Independence
,I dont understand why people feel so invested in any celebrity or monarch who neither knows who you are and cares even less....I wont come back on this thread thanks, if I'd known it was only for staunch royalists and other opinions were not welcome I'd have stayed off as I often do .Maybe you should make it clear that republicans are not welcome .

Thank you for your posts.
It's nice to read such normal thinking instead of so much hysteria.