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I am confused........

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Franbern Tue 31-May-22 12:30:14

Okay, I will not be taking part in any celebrations this coming week. Me and my whole family are firm and committed republicans.

However, I am still confused as exactly what we are supposed to be celebrating

The queen became such at the beginning of February 1952 - upon the death of her father. The Coronation was held 18 months later on 2nd June 1953. So......this coming weekend is five months too late for the first and a year short for the second.

what am I missing???

Granmarderby10 Tue 31-May-22 20:32:44

I’ll be working on the Thursday, the Friday ‘til 8pm and the Sunday. That’s life when you work in retail.
When I asked if the store would be open opening on the Friday or even the Sunday the reply was yes every day, why wouldn’t we? ?
And we don’t get double time or even time and a half, those days are long gone now.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 31-May-22 20:42:11

That’s really unfair. I have never expected any shop to be open on a bank holiday. Why can’t people do their shopping on
other days?

LadyStardust Tue 31-May-22 20:57:51

Am I allowed to post this? grin grin

Bridgeit Tue 31-May-22 21:06:22

You ask What are you missing…… I would say you are missing a total lack of this countries DNA .

Bridgeit Tue 31-May-22 21:13:38

Grammatical error:- should read :This Country’s DNA

Franbern Wed 01-Jun-22 06:45:20

Bridgeit do you mean that part of the so-called countrys' DNA which thinks it is okay in the twenty first century to bow ad curtsey, and give people silly titles and have a totally unelected head of State and unelected second House of Parliament?

The same DNA which means that families and mates of our Government make large fortunes with public money, whilst children go hungry?

I really am happy not to be part of any of that.

As Marcus Aurelius stated 'It is no use giving ten thousand men the right to make a decision - if none of those ten thousand know anything about the subject on which they are deciding"

M0nica Wed 01-Jun-22 07:37:05

I trust that all those who deplore the celebrations and their cost when people are using Food Banks have taken their noble sentiments into their own lives and that every spare penny they have above that required to supply their basic needs, and in particular any money spent on clebrating family events is all being donated to local food banks.

Franbern Wed 01-Jun-22 08:51:16

MOnica Not only do I think it deplorable that this silly celebration is happening, I also happen to think it even more deplorable that in the sixth richest country in the world, food banks are so necessary. Do not think they are a good thing - think that the need for them is disgusting.

And, Yes, I am sure that many of us on here do support all sorts of charities. We are not against celebrations and parties, just against our so unjust social system in the country

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Jun-22 08:56:25

How can you call the Platinum Jubilee a silly celebration? It marks a unique achievement by a woman who has devoted her entire adult life to this country.

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 09:03:38

I agree that the celebration is silly.

A church service, x-gun salute, flypast etc - all good to celebrate a Royal occasion. Dignified. Even though I'm not a Royalist.

People with Union Jack flags in their hair, corgi biscuits, being exhorted to take part in street parties and sing Sweet Caroline?

Silly.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Jun-22 09:06:59

I love Sweet Caroline!

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 09:10:17

So do I. What's it got to do with the Queen's jubilee, exactly?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Jun-22 09:30:46

No idea but not complaining!

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 09:32:58

I am ???

It's silly ?

Chestnut Wed 01-Jun-22 09:42:49

volver Just hoped for some peace and quiet and an escape from the fun police, that's all.
volver People with Union Jack flags in their hair, corgi biscuits, being exhorted to take part in street parties and sing Sweet Caroline? Silly.

Don't those two comments conflict with each other? I'd say it's you who are being the Fun Police. ?

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 09:44:36

No, no conflict at all.

Its the people with the flags in their hair who are telling me I need to have more fun.

Ergo, they are policing what they think I should consider fun.

Chestnut Wed 01-Jun-22 10:01:50

The Fun Police are generally considered to be those who want to stop people having fun!

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 10:07:20

Are they? I'm thinking more like this.

Evenin' all. Come on madam, the Queen's having a jubilee. What do you mean, you don't want to join in? Can't have that madam. Here's your standard issue Union Jack flag and cupcake. Now if you don't join in we'll be watching you Madam. Very suspicious if you ask me....I think I'll just take your name....

Chestnut Wed 01-Jun-22 10:10:33

What nonsense. No-one is forced to participate as this thread has made clear.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Jun-22 10:13:16

But they're called miseries if they don't want to join in a public event, just have a nice quiet holiday.

Farzanah Wed 01-Jun-22 10:21:42

Crikey. Challenging anything concerning Her Maj on here is like poking a wasps nest with a stick.?

maddyone Wed 01-Jun-22 10:33:09

volver

^And this has become the latest saying to try to make others feel guilty if they can afford to heat and eat or want to enjoy themselves in any way at all.^

I don't think anyone is trying to make others feel guilty about a sausage roll and a corgi-cake.

For me its the breathless hero-worship of someone who has been head of state for 70 years. 70 years! Some think that's an achievement but I think its unhealthy. She is the past, we're not the same country we were in 1952. And she doesn't represent the country that I think we should be. Nobody who has done the same "job" for 70 years represents the country any more.

Then we have all the extended family, Duke this and Earl that - we're not medieval Ruritania sad And the hat with its own Rolls Royce. ??‍♀️

The country is in the worst state it’s been for decades. But right now, we are being told we have to celebrate a very well off woman who hasn't done a hard day’s work in her life in order to earn enough to pay the rent. She hasn't been down the mine, she hasn't done a shift in Tesco's, she hasn't saved anyone's life in the operating theatre. She's had an easy life. Nothing wrong with that, but those who say how hard she works are, IMO, opinion, misled. The lady on the till at Lidl today told me how much she admires her, because of all the things she's done for this country. I didn't to ask her to list those things. ?

So, enjoy your trifle by all means. But don't think we all want to celebrate someone embodying a governance system we don't approve of, based on patronage and plutocracy. And I just wish people would stop calling us names…

You’ve said it better than I could volver, so thank you. Exactly what I think.

maddyone Wed 01-Jun-22 10:43:15

Germanshepherdsmum

How can you call the Platinum Jubilee a silly celebration? It marks a unique achievement by a woman who has devoted her entire adult life to this country.

It marks a woman who has lived a long life. Devoted her entire life to the country? Not so much. But the country has devoted itself to her, spent a lot of money on her, and many claim to ‘love’ her even though they don’t know her. Opening a new ward in a hospital is barely service in my opinion. But fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq is service. Medics staff battling through Covid is service. Serving the public in Tesco is service (and rewarded in the most miserable way.) Our values are upside down. We apparently revere a person who has achieved little beyond staying alive for a long time (my mother has done the same, but no one reveres her) but treat the low paid with contempt. If we cared about the low paid we’d pay them better.

Zoejory Wed 01-Jun-22 10:48:13

I think you're getting a bit muddled up about service there, maddyone

I think most of us know that the service medical staff do is totally different to the Queen's service.

I'm neither for nor against all this jollity. I'm pleased for those who want to participate. And for those who don't I'm equally pleased.

Can't really compare the Queen's wealth with anything. It's not as if she could suddenly decide she wants to sell Buck House and pocket the proceeds. Her Crown Jewels aren't really hers either.

I don't believe there are many who revere the Queen these days either.

They can see she's been on the throne for 70 years so there's to be a Jubilee. And a couple of days off will please many, be they monarchists or royalists.

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 10:52:53

So what service has the Queen actually done then?

What have we got that we wouldn't have otherwise?