I am confused........

Franbern

No humbug here either.
But....do wonder at this occasion, when people who are having to choose whether to eat or heat, are celebrating the life of a woman who owns a million pound hat, a £25 million pound chair and 30 Palaces and a £16 billion jewel collection.

Bread and circuses come to mind.

She doesn't actually own any of those things, Franbern
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You mean they are ours???!!!?

Sell them. Right now. Sell them.

But....do wonder at this occasion, when people who are having to choose whether to eat or heat

And this has become the latest saying to try to make others feel guilty if they can afford to heat and eat or want to enjoy themselves in any way at all.

I don't mean that to sound harsh.
I give to charity and I would change things if I could but I can't at the moment!

However, I am fed up of being beaten about the head by that particular mantra because I didn't cause that; I will try to change things when the opportunity arises and I'm not going to feel guilty if I want to chat with my neighbours and enjoy eating a sandwich and a sausage roll with them.


I expect the wrath of Gransnt to fall on my head now.

Yes volver we could definitely have a party then ?

volver

You mean they are ours???!!!?

Sell them. Right now. Sell them.

Yes, you can borrow it for your Jubilee party!! ?
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Ooh, sorry, I forgot

Just go with it. It'll soon be over???!

And this has become the latest saying to try to make others feel guilty if they can afford to heat and eat or want to enjoy themselves in any way at all.

I don't think anyone is trying to make others feel guilty about a sausage roll and a corgi-cake.

For me its the breathless hero-worship of someone who has been head of state for 70 years. 70 years! Some think that's an achievement but I think its unhealthy. She is the past, we're not the same country we were in 1952. And she doesn't represent the country that I think we should be. Nobody who has done the same "job" for 70 years represents the country any more.

Then we have all the extended family, Duke this and Earl that - we're not medieval Ruritania And the hat with its own Rolls Royce. ??‍♀️

The country is in the worst state it’s been for decades. But right now, we are being told we have to celebrate a very well off woman who hasn't done a hard day’s work in her life in order to earn enough to pay the rent. She hasn't been down the mine, she hasn't done a shift in Tesco's, she hasn't saved anyone's life in the operating theatre. She's had an easy life. Nothing wrong with that, but those who say how hard she works are, IMO, opinion, misled. The lady on the till at Lidl today told me how much she admires her, because of all the things she's done for this country. I didn't to ask her to list those things. ?

So, enjoy your trifle by all means. But don't think we all want to celebrate someone embodying a governance system we don't approve of, based on patronage and plutocracy. And I just wish people would stop calling us names…

I am not into it but it will be the last royal jubilee for many years, Charles probably will not reign long enough for a silver Jubilee and not many on here will be around for Williams silver jubilee.

Whatever, whatever, each to their own. Celebrate or don't celebrate, to me it makes nooooo difference whatsoever.

I for 1 want to do something, whatever that something is I couldn't care less, I'm not bothered if I wave my flag about or if I throw trifle down my throat, i don't have to go the full shebang just as long as I do something....

Serendipity22

Whatever, whatever, each to their own. Celebrate or don't celebrate, to me it makes nooooo difference whatsoever.

I for 1 want to do something, whatever that something is I couldn't care less, I'm not bothered if I wave my flag about or if I throw trifle down my throat, i don't have to go the full shebang just as long as I do something....

Yes, agreed.

I've not called anyone names at all.

In fact, I said:

IT'S NOT COMPULSORY

I have an Off button and a Mute button on my TV and I use them. Often.
I can also avoid threads on GN if I want to.

Many communities are trying to make a nice day for people who have little to spare. Our local foodbank has picnic parcels to take to a local free open air concert.
I too am a republican, and wish that we did this all differently. But after the last 2 years, and the current state, I'm for a community celebration.

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Nice idea, Nannarose

Maybe the queen should trade in her crown for a lite version. Much easier on the ears!

SueDonim

Maybe the queen should trade in her crown for a lite version. Much easier on the ears!

I'll offer to Male one when I've finished knitting my corgi.

Male??
make

I’m more interested in eating Corgis. The biscuit version.

PS This is what the Queen really thinks about the jubilee.

Nannarose

Many communities are trying to make a nice day for people who have little to spare. Our local foodbank has picnic parcels to take to a local free open air concert.
I too am a republican, and wish that we did this all differently. But after the last 2 years, and the current state, I'm for a community celebration.

Hear hear! After the last two years we deserve something to lift our spirits, and a joyous occasion like this is just perfect. It's a HUGE achievement to have dedicated 70 years to serving the country. And yes, the Queen may not be slaving away in a shop or factory but she has endless paperwork to do and events to attend. Imagine being dressed and preened to perfection all the time, with important people to meet and places to go, no matter how you feel. You have to make conversation, give speeches, always be the perfect hostess and be on show. I would find it exhausting, and I imagine it requires a great deal of mental effort and stamina.

When you see the beautiful icing on a cake you don't see all the work that has gone into making it.

Gosh there are some miserable people! fwiw I refer to Gransnet as "Glumsnet"! I am not keen on the Monarchy but I am very keen on community spirit and anything that promotes it. My elderly neighbour put on an early Jubilee tea party on Sunday afternoon and about 40 people in our somewhat rural location got together to eat sandwiches, cake and the Jubilee trifle (which I made). We've had three new families move to the area and it was lovely to meet them. No alcohol was served, children had a nice time and ate lots of cake and we welcomed three Ukrainian refugees into our community. I absolutely refuse to find misery in anything that gives gives a sense of belonging , we are far too polarised. I know for a fact that if we had been at a polling station we would probably have been less cohesive but at least for one afternoon we all chatted happily and stuffed our faces with chocolate cake!

Fgs, can people understand that those who don't enjoy communal (or any) celebrations are not miseries? Are we not allowed to just do what we wish, if anything? Has this turned into a communist state where we do what we're told?

Absolutely no compulsion for anyone to do anything. Not everyone who was invited to my neighbour's tea party came and that's absolutely fine. I'm sure not everyone who came was a royalist/supporter of the monarchy and that seemed to be fine as well. It's the tone of some of the posts that I find sad but I am absolutely happy to differ with you on this GSM as you are as entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.

Clover you forgot to add that she has also had the best health care, no waiting to see a Dr or go to A&E and wait 4 hours to be seen or wait for an ambulance. I don’t dislike the Queen but I feel she is out of touch as is Charles, who has someone to put an inch of toothpaste on his toothbrush,

Germanshepherdsmum

Fgs, can people understand that those who don't enjoy communal (or any) celebrations are not miseries? Are we not allowed to just do what we wish, if anything? Has this turned into a communist state where we do what we're told?

Its bullying isn’t it GSM? Calling people who don’t like the things they like miserable, or glum, or fun sponges. Acting like anybody who isn’t JUST like them is some kind of faulty human being who just needs to cheer up a bit?

No thought that maybe people live in a community that isn’t having a party. Or don’t have friends or family nearby. Or just don’t feel happy at parties. Or just think the whole Windsor thing is a well implemented PR exercise in keeping the peasants happy while the world falls apart around them.

There’s a happy to be celebrating the jubilee thread going. Why don’t all the bossy folk pop over there and spread the good news about how happy their weekend is going to be? Or is it just too tempting to stay here and have a go at people who don’t quite fit your pattern for the ideal royal subject?

Oh, not that old chestnut!!
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DH helped me too, when I had a shoulder injury.

Its not as old as "The Queen works so hard" though.

I couldn’t agree more volver. Live and let live and stop bullying everyone into doing things they don’t want to do, for whatever reason. Joining in community events or having big family celebrations isn’t compulsory. We are all free to do whatever suits us.