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I am confused........

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Franbern Tue 31-May-22 12:30:14

Okay, I will not be taking part in any celebrations this coming week. Me and my whole family are firm and committed republicans.

However, I am still confused as exactly what we are supposed to be celebrating

The queen became such at the beginning of February 1952 - upon the death of her father. The Coronation was held 18 months later on 2nd June 1953. So......this coming weekend is five months too late for the first and a year short for the second.

what am I missing???

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 09:10:17

So do I. What's it got to do with the Queen's jubilee, exactly?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Jun-22 09:06:59

I love Sweet Caroline!

volver Wed 01-Jun-22 09:03:38

I agree that the celebration is silly.

A church service, x-gun salute, flypast etc - all good to celebrate a Royal occasion. Dignified. Even though I'm not a Royalist.

People with Union Jack flags in their hair, corgi biscuits, being exhorted to take part in street parties and sing Sweet Caroline?

Silly.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Jun-22 08:56:25

How can you call the Platinum Jubilee a silly celebration? It marks a unique achievement by a woman who has devoted her entire adult life to this country.

Franbern Wed 01-Jun-22 08:51:16

MOnica Not only do I think it deplorable that this silly celebration is happening, I also happen to think it even more deplorable that in the sixth richest country in the world, food banks are so necessary. Do not think they are a good thing - think that the need for them is disgusting.

And, Yes, I am sure that many of us on here do support all sorts of charities. We are not against celebrations and parties, just against our so unjust social system in the country

M0nica Wed 01-Jun-22 07:37:05

I trust that all those who deplore the celebrations and their cost when people are using Food Banks have taken their noble sentiments into their own lives and that every spare penny they have above that required to supply their basic needs, and in particular any money spent on clebrating family events is all being donated to local food banks.

Franbern Wed 01-Jun-22 06:45:20

Bridgeit do you mean that part of the so-called countrys' DNA which thinks it is okay in the twenty first century to bow ad curtsey, and give people silly titles and have a totally unelected head of State and unelected second House of Parliament?

The same DNA which means that families and mates of our Government make large fortunes with public money, whilst children go hungry?

I really am happy not to be part of any of that.

As Marcus Aurelius stated 'It is no use giving ten thousand men the right to make a decision - if none of those ten thousand know anything about the subject on which they are deciding"

Bridgeit Tue 31-May-22 21:13:38

Grammatical error:- should read :This Country’s DNA

Bridgeit Tue 31-May-22 21:06:22

You ask What are you missing…… I would say you are missing a total lack of this countries DNA .

LadyStardust Tue 31-May-22 20:57:51

Am I allowed to post this? grin grin

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 31-May-22 20:42:11

That’s really unfair. I have never expected any shop to be open on a bank holiday. Why can’t people do their shopping on
other days?

Granmarderby10 Tue 31-May-22 20:32:44

I’ll be working on the Thursday, the Friday ‘til 8pm and the Sunday. That’s life when you work in retail.
When I asked if the store would be open opening on the Friday or even the Sunday the reply was yes every day, why wouldn’t we? ?
And we don’t get double time or even time and a half, those days are long gone now.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 31-May-22 20:15:56

I couldn’t agree more volver. Live and let live and stop bullying everyone into doing things they don’t want to do, for whatever reason. Joining in community events or having big family celebrations isn’t compulsory. We are all free to do whatever suits us.

volver Tue 31-May-22 19:44:12

Its not as old as "The Queen works so hard" though.

Callistemon21 Tue 31-May-22 19:42:32

Oh, not that old chestnut!!
?
DH helped me too, when I had a shoulder injury.

volver Tue 31-May-22 19:41:10

Germanshepherdsmum

Fgs, can people understand that those who don't enjoy communal (or any) celebrations are not miseries? Are we not allowed to just do what we wish, if anything? Has this turned into a communist state where we do what we're told?

Its bullying isn’t it GSM? Calling people who don’t like the things they like miserable, or glum, or fun sponges. Acting like anybody who isn’t JUST like them is some kind of faulty human being who just needs to cheer up a bit?

No thought that maybe people live in a community that isn’t having a party. Or don’t have friends or family nearby. Or just don’t feel happy at parties. Or just think the whole Windsor thing is a well implemented PR exercise in keeping the peasants happy while the world falls apart around them.

There’s a happy to be celebrating the jubilee thread going. Why don’t all the bossy folk pop over there and spread the good news about how happy their weekend is going to be? Or is it just too tempting to stay here and have a go at people who don’t quite fit your pattern for the ideal royal subject?

Barmeyoldbat Tue 31-May-22 19:37:49

Clover you forgot to add that she has also had the best health care, no waiting to see a Dr or go to A&E and wait 4 hours to be seen or wait for an ambulance. I don’t dislike the Queen but I feel she is out of touch as is Charles, who has someone to put an inch of toothpaste on his toothbrush,

foxie48 Tue 31-May-22 19:22:33

Absolutely no compulsion for anyone to do anything. Not everyone who was invited to my neighbour's tea party came and that's absolutely fine. I'm sure not everyone who came was a royalist/supporter of the monarchy and that seemed to be fine as well. It's the tone of some of the posts that I find sad but I am absolutely happy to differ with you on this GSM as you are as entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 31-May-22 18:58:28

Fgs, can people understand that those who don't enjoy communal (or any) celebrations are not miseries? Are we not allowed to just do what we wish, if anything? Has this turned into a communist state where we do what we're told?

foxie48 Tue 31-May-22 18:43:42

Gosh there are some miserable people! fwiw I refer to Gransnet as "Glumsnet"! I am not keen on the Monarchy but I am very keen on community spirit and anything that promotes it. My elderly neighbour put on an early Jubilee tea party on Sunday afternoon and about 40 people in our somewhat rural location got together to eat sandwiches, cake and the Jubilee trifle (which I made). We've had three new families move to the area and it was lovely to meet them. No alcohol was served, children had a nice time and ate lots of cake and we welcomed three Ukrainian refugees into our community. I absolutely refuse to find misery in anything that gives gives a sense of belonging , we are far too polarised. I know for a fact that if we had been at a polling station we would probably have been less cohesive but at least for one afternoon we all chatted happily and stuffed our faces with chocolate cake!

Chestnut Tue 31-May-22 18:15:56

Nannarose

Many communities are trying to make a nice day for people who have little to spare. Our local foodbank has picnic parcels to take to a local free open air concert.
I too am a republican, and wish that we did this all differently. But after the last 2 years, and the current state, I'm for a community celebration.

Hear hear! After the last two years we deserve something to lift our spirits, and a joyous occasion like this is just perfect. It's a HUGE achievement to have dedicated 70 years to serving the country. And yes, the Queen may not be slaving away in a shop or factory but she has endless paperwork to do and events to attend. Imagine being dressed and preened to perfection all the time, with important people to meet and places to go, no matter how you feel. You have to make conversation, give speeches, always be the perfect hostess and be on show. I would find it exhausting, and I imagine it requires a great deal of mental effort and stamina.

When you see the beautiful icing on a cake you don't see all the work that has gone into making it.

SueDonim Tue 31-May-22 18:01:16

I’m more interested in eating Corgis. The biscuit version. grin

PS This is what the Queen really thinks about the jubilee.

Callistemon21 Tue 31-May-22 17:58:05

Male??
make

Callistemon21 Tue 31-May-22 17:57:48

SueDonim

Maybe the queen should trade in her crown for a lite version. Much easier on the ears!

I'll offer to Male one when I've finished knitting my corgi.

SueDonim Tue 31-May-22 17:55:04

Maybe the queen should trade in her crown for a lite version. Much easier on the ears!