I am confused........

I do wonder at this 'duty' thingie!!!

Does everyone do their 'duty' by going to do their job?

Doctors, nurses, Health workers, road sweepers, miners, bus and train drivers, teachers, etc. etc.???

Not really sure what is meant by that phrase that seems to be rolled out so often with regard to royals.

We all have choice.

The Queens choices were either abdicate or get on with it.

Duty was drilled into many folks back in the day, that’s not such a bad think but it does have its draw backs.

I think it's fairly obvious why we are celebrating this June, by next HM may not be capable of attending anything. As it is whatever they gave her to get her standing on the balcony for Trooping the Colour has obviously to be strictly limited. I wondered at George and Charlotte sitting at the front and centre for last nights concert and then realised they were probably a last minute substitute for HM and ? (Prince Andrew?).
Meanwhile the media continues to build the myth that is the RF and HM. Someone said yesterday that she "had never had a day off" and I wondered about all the time at Sandringham and Balmoral. But it seems to be a myth the British public are embracing this weekend.

Franbern, I have been thinking about your post all day. I think the word duty has several quite nuanced meanings.

A doctor, nurse, or any other person in work has their duty to their employer, who is paying them,. But that duty is limited to the conditions of employment and hours of work. duty, in the Queens sinse would be when they decide to work longer hours or call in when off duty because of their concern about a patient - and remember, medical staff like the rest of the world can be good bad and indifferent, and some will skive and ignore patients, or leave them waiting for care, just as some will go to great lengths to care and there are enough compensation payments and hospital scandals to show that not every problem can be blamed on inadequste staffing.

The same applies to the Queen, there are certain duties, in the term of things she is expected to do, and is paid for, but her determination to continue to do things well beyond the stage when she could reasonably pack it in and retire to Windsor and only be seen on postage stamps.
can reasonably be defined as committed to doing her duty well beyond what she is paid for - and still doing it very well at 96.

Whenever she had a holiday she always had her Red Boxes Glorianny, with the sole exception, I read, of Easter Day.

Germanshepherdsmum

Whenever she had a holiday she always had her Red Boxes Glorianny, with the sole exception, I read, of Easter Day.

I always take loads of books with me when I go on holiday and carry one with me everywhere. When I don't want to socialise an open book is a great way to put people off. Perhaps HM uses her red boxes instead.
But I have no doubt she reads the contents with care when there's something coming up which might impact on her personally, like tax, or environmental protection, and gets onto her solicitor immediately.

I have no doubt that she reads everything carefully. And you’re lucky not to have to work when on holiday. It was a regular thing for me.

Not only does the Queen read her red boxes on holiday, she also receives official envoys and has a variety of people she probably would rather avoid coming to stay. For example can you imagine anything more tedious that having Tony and Cherie Blair tor to stay.

But all these discussions are pointless, I hav every respect for people who believe we should be a republic and can argue their case sensibly and cogently.

This general and silly abuse of the Royal Family as individiduals, is silly and puerile and devalues the republican cause.

Good post Monica

Bridgeit

Good post Monica

Yes, Monica, very good post.

Must say I have been amused at the public adoration at the little Louis being a difficult toddler. How the British public do love these cheeky young Princes ans Priuncesses - until they grow up and have the same actions and even dare to go off and marry a foreign girl/boy and even then leave UK!!! Then, instead of being 'cheeky' - they become scum111

Franbern No-one has called H&M 'scum' and it was their actions that caused dislike of them, not just the marriage and leaving the UK. Have you been living under a rock, did you miss the Oprah interview etc. etc.

Franbern, you make an excellent point.

What might be endearing in a young child is not necessarily endearing in a teenager or adult.

Interesting that someone might think you've been living under a rock because you are not obsessing about an interview with two celebrities on US TV over a year ago...

An interview with key unpleasant points on every front page and discussed incessantly.

Nope - I did not see, nor bother to read about any interviews with so-called celebs, with or without a title to their names.

I am as much interested in their lives as they are in mine!!!

Not living under or on any rock, just in the real world where wars, poverty, hunger, homelessness, sickness, etc. are actual reality.

Only saw this bit about Louis, when I picked up a Metro paper on the bus going to the supermarket this week. Did try to skip through all their (many) pages on the royals, to try to find any 'news'.

...and discussed incessantly.

Not in my house. Or DP's house. Or by anybody I know.

Franbern has accused someone (who?) of calling H&M 'scum' for getting married and leaving the country. Where this misguided information comes from I don't know, but most of us are aware it's a lot more complicated than that. It is because of their behaviour and actions that they are disliked. And yes, it has been discussed incessantly on Gransnet and elsewhere.

Not even mentioned in my u3a Debating/discussion group.

has accused someone (who?) of calling H&M 'scum'

No she hasn't. Another example of making up a story to fit your narrative, I'm afraid. Or else a complete inability to understand what a poster means.

The royals, including Harry and Meghan, are very rarely discussed in my house. My husband has remarked that I came eventually, to the republican point of view.
Why are Harry and Meghan disliked by many people? This is what I think, it may not be true;

The Oprah interview where they used their unique position to criticise the royal family to the whole world, which although I’m a republican, many other people love

They preach to the world at large about saving the environment, whilst simultaneously using private jets regularly

Some people think they court publicly in order to stay relevant, I’m not saying I think this, but some do

They use their royal connections to earn money ie Netflix, Spotify. As I don’t have either of these, I’m simply commenting on what I’ve heard, usually on chat programmes such as Jeremy Vine, which I often listen to

These seem to be the reasons. I’m not stating my opinion, just what I think might be the case.

until they grow up and have the same actions and even dare to go off and marry a foreign girl/boy and even then leave UK!!! Then, instead of being 'cheeky' - they become scum111
Okay, then whoever called them 'scum'?

Chestnut

^until they grow up and have the same actions and even dare to go off and marry a foreign girl/boy and even then leave UK!!! Then, instead of being 'cheeky' - they become scum111^
Okay, then whoever called them 'scum'?

This happens a lot on GN, maybe it happens other places too, but I've not noticed it.

Person A uses a word in a post. Someone gets inordinately and inappropriately angry about the use of that word, and fits it into a sentence in their head that Person A never said or typed. This is then used to attack Person A and imply they said something they didn't.

Explains a lot though. I'm sure there must be an academic term in psychology for this, maybe somebody knows it?

maddyone

The royals, including Harry and Meghan, are very rarely discussed in my house. My husband has remarked that I came eventually, to the republican point of view.
Why are Harry and Meghan disliked by many people? This is what I think, it may not be true;

The Oprah interview where they used their unique position to criticise the royal family to the whole world, which although I’m a republican, many other people love

They preach to the world at large about saving the environment, whilst simultaneously using private jets regularly

Some people think they court publicly in order to stay relevant, I’m not saying I think this, but some do

They use their royal connections to earn money ie Netflix, Spotify. As I don’t have either of these, I’m simply commenting on what I’ve heard, usually on chat programmes such as Jeremy Vine, which I often listen to

These seem to be the reasons. I’m not stating my opinion, just what I think might be the case.

We could just ignore them and not take umbrage on other people's behalf.

On the other side, I guess I am interested in why people are so invested in this.

For instance. There's lots of people who fly in jets but advocate green politics. We don't call them out on it at every opportunity though. What about William? Apparently his speech on Saturday was all about saving the planet. Wonder if he got there by helicopter? But William is the golden boy and plays by the Royal Rules, so he'll get away with murder.