So called jokes about rape!

Callistemon21

I don't care a jot about your interpretation of what you think I said, volver.

Your posts on many threads are what is known as "goadyfuckery" on MN, trying to goad posters into an angry reaction so they get reported.

I just ?

Fair enough. ??????. More of your interpretations though, innit?

I don't care a jot about your interpretation of what you think I said, volver.

Your posts on many threads are what is known as "goadyfuckery" on MN, trying to goad posters into an angry reaction so they get reported.

I just ?

Well said TerriBull. That was just how I felt at the time. Horrible man.

No it’s certainly isn’t unreasonable. Says a lot about the person. I walked out of a show years ago when Freddie Star was being awful about women. I don’t pay to listen to that. I was heckled as I left.

I just don’t see how it’s a joke any more than “I’ll have a drink before dinner. No, I think I’ll have dinner first”

No exactly rolling in aisles stuff, is it.

Very willing for you to explain why it would be funny.

In my opening post I didn't bring FB Scottishness into the argument, because that is irrelevant to me, for what it's worth I can't stand thoroughly English Jim Davidson either or any other so called comedians like the late Bernard Manning who traded on casual misogyny as part of their act. I did however ponder on whether your defence of FB was POSSIBLY but not categorically because he was Scottish perhaps I didn't express that well enough.

Whether FB was taken out of context , using a high profile person's name to weigh up the pros and cons of the acceptability of a "joke " pondering on whether it would be preferable in raping and killing or killing and then raping HW in the age of the incel is giving out a dangerous message with the intent of the comment. To a warped mind already fired up with a desire to hurt women who knows what could prove a trigger. Famous women have stalkers so to put such a high profile name as HW into that context is irresponsible and I imagine FB knows it is, but as with previous salacious comments about other well known women he just doesn't care. Perhaps Holly Willoughby will!

So we can't make a judgement without listening to his preamble verbatim, maybe he's not worth listening to, having already made the salacious comments about Katie Price and her disabled son up thread, yeah historical, but so what! so are a lot of grievances on GN certain posters are selective in what they can move on from!

Even the Guardian called him out on his vile remarks about Rebecca Addlington's looks, which he returned to not once but twice, are these comments from someone who resembles a Greek God, hardly more like a bag of spanners! Did Rebecca Addlington winner of Gold medals deserve to have such mean spirited put downs she never sought to trade on her appearance did nothing to deserve that crock of shit and from what I read at the time felt very undermined by those remarks.

Well to quote Dianne Abbott it's very hard to defend the indefensible. I can't understand why any woman would

I suppose what worries me quite a bit is that we have lots of people condemning a comedian for something that he himself says he never said. We have you, Callistemon telling us what he really thinks based only on what you believe he thinks. And you, Lathyrus analysing a joke you've not heard and telling us he's a potential rapist.

Such strong feelings about something that the Daily Mail has made up. And before you protest that you don't read the Daily Mail, please read all the articles. They are all about what the Daily Mail has said and printed.

So if you will believe this because you don't like Boyle, what else might you be inclined to believe?

Callistemon21

Oh yes, I'd forgotten that.

Could you post the recipe again please Lucca

With pleasure.
www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/express_lasagne_51375

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Blimey I'd best keep quiet about going to see Chubby Brown then

I don't agree with Volver and her enjoyment of FB.

But she does have a point with this statment. It really worries me how much people remember about what I post. Is this stalking?

Volver, the answer is yes. Some GN members do searches, to find stuff from way back, to then bring up to attack members they dislike with. It'll only be specific members. Most wouldn''t do it/couldn't be ar**d.

Oh yes, I'd forgotten that.

Could you post the recipe again please Lucca

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MissAdventure

It's his trademark to make offensive jokes - Jim Davidson was the same, (and hated!) until suddenly everyone liked him again.

until suddenly everyone liked him again.
Not me!

I don't like Frankie Boyle or jokes about rape. I still don't want comedy, especially stand up to be PC or regulated. The whole nature of stand up is to test boundaries and the audience will do that job perfectly well

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It’s not actually a joke is it? It’s just a statement of intent.

No story with an unexpected ending, no play on words, no comic twist to an everyday event, no whatever else makes a joke.

The desperation of a fading career. Anything to be noticed.

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Galaxy

I think FB is a misogynist but I think it's a dangerous road to decide that subjects are off limits. Ricky Gervais does a joke about the holocaust, it's funny moving and quite a powerful commentary on what happened.

Perhaps if it was someone else?

He has criticised Ricky Gervais for making offensive jokes.
However, Ricky Gervais appears to be much cleverer than Boyle so perhaps Boyle doesn't understand the difference between being downright crudely offensive humour and jokes which make people think twice about their entrenched attitudes.

I’m with GrannyGravy on this. Rape of any kind has no place in any comedy routine. I ve yet to meet anyone who has been raped find anything remotely amusing about the subject

I think FB is a misogynist but I think it's a dangerous road to decide that subjects are off limits. Ricky Gervais does a joke about the holocaust, it's funny moving and quite a powerful commentary on what happened.

Callistemon21

volver

Why is everyone picking on me?

If I cared, I might be upset ??

But it is odd.

No, we're not being odd!!

You're not, no. ?

Rape has no place in any comedy routine, regardless of context , regardless of if it’s referring to male or female rape.

volver

Why is everyone picking on me?

If I cared, I might be upset ??

But it is odd.

No, we're not being odd!!

volver

I agree that what he said about Ms Price's son 11 years ago was unacceptable. I find it difficult though to hold a grudge for that long though.

Unlike some, it seems.

It's not holding a grudge
It is evidence of previous offensiveness by Boyle.

Mr Boyle again - from the Scotsman, no less: “Can I just say, my routine about raping and f*****g Holly Willoughby was part of a very long routine about whether or not it's OK to do a joke about that, and I look at it from both sides, there are pluses and minuses.

He's being disingenuous if he is pretending it is anything but a subtle attempt to incite certain feelings in those of his audience who may not understand the so-called claimed nuances of his nasty attempts at humour.

I have never found misogyny at all funny
Me neither.
Nor jokes about rape.

I'm very surprised at your defence of him volver.

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