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Utter madness. IQ of the nation.

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kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 12:56:57

Just watched an angry man on one of the news channels complaining that as he lives in the country he has missed his chance to say goodbye to the Queen! He thinks there should have been a procession round parts of the country away from London and they have deprived him of his rights.
No matter what you think of the monarchy she was a woman you didn't know so why would you queue for hours to walk past ?

M0nica Wed 14-Sept-22 15:39:37

It is very annoying isn't it Paddyann when everybody doesn't agree with you and do or feel just like you.

Those with wider more sympathetic minds understand that people are very different with very different lives and experiences and react very differently to different events in their lives and they respect their right to do so.

The fact of the matter is like it or not, many, many people in this country and around the world have been profoundly and deeply affected by the death of the Queen, they are entitled to be so and should be treated with the same respect that we offer those to whom this event is not germane.

The Queen chose to die in Scotland and her route south has been, almost a straight line from Balmoral to Buckingham Palace. All along that route, except, obviously, when flying south, the route has been lined, 6 and 8 thick with those wanting to pay their last respects. Queues up to 5 miles long are expected for the lying in state.

The fact of the matter is that a significant proportion of the population, possibly even a majority, want to be part of this major historic event.

There is nothing to be gained by jumping up and down and throwing your toys out of the pram because you do not.

A bank holiday has been announced but there have been no instructions given, hints dropped etc etc to say that other funerals should be delayed or hospital appointments cancelled. These decisions are being made by the organisations involved and those are the ones who should be held to account for making decisions that were not necessary and are causing families distress.

Silvergirl Wed 14-Sept-22 15:34:18

I think it may be FOMO in lots of cases? I would watch if she was coming past my house but otherwise the tv is fine for me.

FannyCornforth Wed 14-Sept-22 15:34:16

I’m with you both Bob and Blossoming
I tend to avoid coffins and anything funereal at all costs, unless absolutely necessary (and even then I might try to get out of it!)

Blossoming Wed 14-Sept-22 15:23:58

It isn’t something I would, or indeed could, do. If others wish to pay their respects it makes them neither mad nor of low IQ.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 14-Sept-22 15:21:40

I am fed up with whole thing and couldn’t think of anything worse than joking a queue for hours just to walk pass a coffin but each to their own.

vampirequeen Wed 14-Sept-22 15:20:57

We don't have enough money to fund the NHS, education, social care etc. but we can pay out £millions for a funeral and a coronation. We're told the economy is detrimentally affected by people who strike for one day or work to rule for better pay and conditions, but it's OK to shut the country on Monday.

I have no problem if people want to queue, camp out etc to look at a coffin or line the streets to see it go by. But I do object to the 24/7 coverage and the country being closed on Monday. If you want to spend the day in mourning for someone you never met then that's your choice but don't impinge on my right to carry on as normal. I can't imagine how it feels to have your loved one's funeral cancelled as, it seems, no one can be buried or cremated on the same day as a queen. What about people who have been waiting for hospital appointments or surgery? Imagine you've been waiting weeks in pain or terror only for your appointment to be cancelled leaving you to suffer even longer.

Pantglas2 Wed 14-Sept-22 15:15:17

I’d probably have trotted along to pay my respects anywhere along the north Wales coast (had the cortège or I have been there) but DH wouldn’t have crossed the street although he served in the seventies.

None of my family or friends are staunch Monarchists or republicans, mostly just happy with the status quo.

Beckett Wed 14-Sept-22 15:10:55

How is it "showing respect" to expect her body to be trundled around the country like a fairground sideshow? Why not have her mummified, encased in the glass sarcophagus and put on permanent display hmm

Prentice Wed 14-Sept-22 15:08:58

volver

^we were beside people from Dundee, York and London who had travelled to Edinburgh^

You mean... you mean ... they weren't all Scots there to show how much we loved the late Queen by turning out in huge numbers?

Well I never.

some people were on holiday in Scotland or there for business reasons so I have read. Of course, if you live in London there is no need to go far in order to see any royal procession, so we are lucky here.
I do understand why the man feels upset, but it is not possible for the funeral car to tour the length and breadth of England and Wales or NI in order for people to pay their respects as the late Queen passes by.
it is unkind to question IQ though in this case.

growstuff Wed 14-Sept-22 15:03:02

It was to be expected. Thousands of people queued to see Richard III's coffin in Leicester - and he'd been dead for hundreds of years.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-32014048

Zoejory Wed 14-Sept-22 14:55:46

I think he did have somewhat of a point. I would not go down to London, nor Scotland nor anywhere to pay my respects. I am sad about the Queen and am happy enough to have a RF but I'd not have done this. Like most of us won't.

However many people do want to pay respects and be involved with the event and all that it is. Good job really or all this pomp and suchlike wouldn't;t be appreciated.

But I feel for many older people who would have liked to go. Some are ardent royalists but know that frailty of body means they would be unable to queue for 36 hours etc etc

I would have thought it better for the Queen to have done the whole journey by car. That way they could stop off at various towns and cities and people could have paid respects more locally.

Now it looks as if London is chock a block. People have started queuing for a funeral which doesn't take place until Monday. Hours to wait to see the coffin lying in state. It does make viewing impossible for many.

I'm not sure it's outdated or old fashioned to queue and camp out. Most of the population wasn't alive the last time we lost a monarch.

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 14:36:15

Germanshepherdsmum

Perhaps she’s waiting to see which way the wind blows.

Yes I dont want to be sent to my room again!

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 14:35:05

Casdon

It’s not much of a thread if you don’t give us your opinion kircubbin2000! Go on, tell us what you think?

I don't like crowds so I wouldn't go but as someone said you can see it well on TV. The rest of my family are glued to the mall parade at the moment. I think the TV coverage has been too much. Daughter was down laying flowers yesterday.

nanna8 Wed 14-Sept-22 14:26:40

You lot are so good at pomp and ceremony, very impressive. Just stunning. Good music,too - very fitting for a revered monarch.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 14-Sept-22 14:07:03

Perhaps she’s waiting to see which way the wind blows.

Casdon Wed 14-Sept-22 13:34:29

It’s not much of a thread if you don’t give us your opinion kircubbin2000! Go on, tell us what you think?

Mine Wed 14-Sept-22 13:31:56

I'm with you PADDYANN54. Everyone entitled to do their own thing in life but I think it is totally outdated to queue and camp out all night to walk passed a coffin....The amount of coverage thats been on TV let's you see the coffin perfectly..

Smileless2012 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:23:31

I'm sure they have a life that they're quite happy with paddyann.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:23:26

If people feel that they want to pay their respects to the late Queen Elizabeth II by visiting Westminster Hall or lining one of the roads the cortege has travelled it is their choice.

It is a significant moment in U.K. history, worth marking in whatever way suits the individual.

volver Wed 14-Sept-22 13:20:57

we were beside people from Dundee, York and London who had travelled to Edinburgh

You mean... you mean ... they weren't all Scots there to show how much we loved the late Queen by turning out in huge numbers?

Well I never.

paddyann54 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:17:41

I thnk they need to get a life!I dont care how many of you it offends .Will some of you on NHS lists be happy if/when your op is delayed yet again because of the performance mourning on Monday when it seems we have to close the country down for the day? All for an overprivileged women most didn't know .

ElaineI Wed 14-Sept-22 13:15:19

It gives a sense of finality I think and an opportunity to pay respect to someone who has devoted her life to the country. As to the man who was angry - we were beside people from Dundee, York and London who had travelled to Edinburgh. It was well organised and there were taxis laid on for those with mobility issues. I'm glad we went.

Smileless2012 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:10:12

I think they are simply paying their respects.

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:06:25

FannyCornforth

So are they ‘mad’, ‘stupid’, or as you suggest, both?
The news channels are running out of people to vox pop, I assume

What do you think?I give no opinion.

FannyCornforth Wed 14-Sept-22 13:05:23

Three quarters of a million are expected to file past in London.
It’s a huge undertaking