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About my neighbour ?

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annsixty Mon 11-Sept-23 11:51:40

Well I suppose I am but I am so cross.
I am an 86 year old widow, I do not live alone, my almost 25 year old GD lives with me but she lives a very busy work and social life as most do at that age.

My neighbour came round this morning to complain about my bins not being put where he wants them put.
For context his house is set back from mine so he can see my garage wall.
I have a fairly lengthy path down the side of my house with a gate at the end.

Since I have become older ,unless someone else does it I leave the bins down the side of my house for ease of moving them.
He came round this morning to say that he is sick of eating his breakfast looking out at my bins and asked that I keep them at the back of the house.
I just said I would see about it.
I wanted to say on the couple of days they are out after being emptied or when the gardeners need access perhaps he could use another chair at the table. However I didn’t wanr to be provocative.

He then carried on to say he is currently having treatment for prostate cancer which he has had for many years but occasionally has treatment for.
I sympathised and went inside.
I was cross first and then very upset.
AIBU or perhaps is he?

Cambsnan Tue 12-Sept-23 12:39:57

Sounds like your neighbour is looking for some TLC. It is coming out as anger but comes from a place of fear. Be sympathetic.
On a practical note, you can register as disabled / elderly with the council and they will put your bin away for you.

welbeck Tue 12-Sept-23 12:46:05

most everyone's bins are visible all the time where i live.
usually 3, if they pay for garden waste collection.
and most have yards, but as long as they are not blocking the public footway, i see no grounds for complaint.
sounds a ridiculous thing to be bothered about to me.
do not pander to this nonsense.

Nannashirlz Tue 12-Sept-23 12:59:11

Tell him to go and eat his breakfast in a different room then he won’t have to look.
I’ve just moved into my place and my neighbor moaned because I hadn’t done garden yet. Lawn being cut but anything else it can wait until I’ve done the house. I said I moved in 7 weeks ago do I look like Wonder Woman lol they just looked and walked away

kwest Tue 12-Sept-23 13:03:10

If your ring your local council and ask, they will collect your bins and put them back after emptying them. This should solve your problem and keep the neighbour happy too.

Primrose53 Tue 12-Sept-23 13:07:27

Wenmore

Although not an excuse, apart from the suffering the disease itself causes, the treatment for prostate cancer can have absolutely dreadful side effects. I suspect he realised as he was speaking that he was out of order and that's why he mentioned the prostate cancer. He may also have a terminal prognosis which won't help his social demeanour. Maybe cut him some slack.

My thinking exactly as I said in my earlier post.👍

welbeck Tue 12-Sept-23 13:08:50

no. the council will just wheel them off the public highway onto your land.
they will not wheel them down a drive, round a corner, or under a hedge.
and they'd prefer you keep them just an inch or two onto your land, so easily reachable when they have to empty them.
if you qualify for the retrieval service they will get them if in view but will leave them just off the highway, which is reasonable enough.
they are v busy.

Gundy Tue 12-Sept-23 13:19:23

If he is married and that physical and socially active while undergoing cancer treatments - he might just be a cranky, miserable human being.

How about throwing him off his game?

Like, now that you know he “God, bless him” has cancer, bake a nice cake or pie for him, bring it over and say “I was so sorry to hear you are undergoing cancer treatments. I hope an apple pie helps to alleviate some of your pain (or discomfort.)” Do that once or twice, see what happens.

Best to just get along, if possible.
USA Gundy

Bugbabe2019 Tue 12-Sept-23 13:19:57

If the bins are on your land you can put them wherever you want!

AreWeThereYet Tue 12-Sept-23 13:22:16

Maybe just mentioning to him that you are not fit enough to move them far and have no one to help might prompt him to offer help? He does sound as if he's always been a bit highly strung if he's always complained about every noise. Even if his cancer is under control there is no saying what a strain it is putting on him emotionally, not to mention the effects of his drugs.

LondonMzFitz Tue 12-Sept-23 13:32:03

I think it's his attitude that would anger/irritate me. A knock with a polite - I'm so sorry to ask, but would it be possible to - " etc would be much more appropriate. I wouldn't dream of asking a neighbour to move her bins because they spoiled my view. The imagined entitlement of some people.

In my previous home I shared a drive with my neighbour, luckily we got on very well. Further up the street were a number of maisonettes (flats upstairs and downstairs), of course each with a car so the road was full of vehicles. Two neighbours, both in their 40's, had a running dispute about one neighbours girlfriends car which was always parked in front of the bins, a row that escalated into a 3am on a Sunday morning stabbing, leaving one of the men dead and the other serving 18 years for manslaughter (me first on the scene, 2 days at The Old Bailey giving evidence). I find I get very anxious now about neighbourhood relationships.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 12-Sept-23 13:44:51

I would not move my bins.

In your place, I would have told my neighbour that I can no longer move the bins when they are full to the pavement edge for emptying and that they will need to stay where they are.

Could you put a screen of some kind round them? Perhaps use the kind of cheap wooden fencing sold in DIY stores.

If you or your grand-daughter cannot do this yourselves, nor know any handyman or woman who can, (has your grand-daughter a brother, boyfriend or father who could do the job?) go in and ask your neighbour if he will help with the job.

Realising that the cancer he hoped was in remission has come back is bound to be upsetting for him, and like most men, I bet he becomes grumpy when upset.

It is worth making an effort to get along with the neighbours, but shoving heavy bins about is not on, so see if you can find another solution.

If a screen round your bins isn't feasible, I would be tempted to plant a fast growing shrub or two in his line of vision from his kitchen to your bins - and if he complains about that, say nicely that you thought he would prefer to look at a flowering shrub than your bins.

welbeck Tue 12-Sept-23 13:48:50

no, why should OP go to the bother of any screening/planting.
do not be apologetic about not able to move them.
maybe a vague amused response, or as they say,
yer avin a laaarf !

welbeck Tue 12-Sept-23 13:50:16

LondonMzFitz, how horrendous. that would make anyone anxious about neighbours.
i hope you have got nice ones now.
take care.

Chocgran Tue 12-Sept-23 14:02:21

YANBU
We’ve got an old charmer like this a couple of doors down. He and his wife are known for their moaning. He has also been struggling with health problems, but unbeknown to him, so has my DH. We also have other issues _ a very ill grandchild and end of life MIL but don’t take this out on other people. I’ve been very sweet up till recently but have had enough and put our house on the market. Funnily enough, so have lots of previous owners over the years. This couple are very lonely- I wonder why?

Notmychoice Tue 12-Sept-23 14:06:37

How would he react if you were to ask him, being the friendly and helpful type, if he could put your bins out for you on bin day, then return them to a location, on your property, of his choosing?

tictacnana Tue 12-Sept-23 14:20:39

Our neighbours put our bins out and bring them back if we’re away or outNo bother. We buy them the occasional bottle of wine or box of biscuits. I think he is being unreasonable and rude. No need for it. Taking his problems out on other people by complaining. He wouldn’t do it to a man , I’d dare to bet.

Paperbackwriter Tue 12-Sept-23 14:30:23

You could always write "Naff Off" (or words to that effect) in nice easy-to-read letters on the side of the bin facing him!

Grammaretto Tue 12-Sept-23 14:35:26

London MzFitz that is a horrible cautionary tale. Not to mess with neighbours
I have another about road rage. Remember hammer man?

As I said earlier my neighbour on another side is moving house, She assures us she had been planning to anyway but her rude, threatening new neighbours are giving her the impetus to put her house on the market.
I keep my fingers crossed at all times that I don't have bad neighbours.

I had to complain to the landlord about a tenant in the flats next door when my DD was still a child and was scared to walk up the shared drive. This woman would be yelling and swearing to any and everything.
She shut up after that as I think she was worried she'd be homeless. The council found her a house eventually so she left.

fluttERBY123 Tue 12-Sept-23 14:36:27

Could granddaughter not be told it's her job to at least put bins back? She learns responsibility, everyone happy.

annsixty Tue 12-Sept-23 14:41:54

My neighbour really isn’t a horrible neighbour, he is very fussy and he is like a male Hyacinth Bucket.
Do you get the picture now?
I sympathise with him, I am a cancer survivor, my H died from Metastatic cancer along with Alzheimer’s 4 years ago.
I just think in this case he was being very unreasonable.
To say he was sick of looking at my bins while eating his breakfast was going too far in my eyes.

Notmychoice Tue 12-Sept-23 14:42:11

If you were to use a fence, how about this?

11unicorn Tue 12-Sept-23 15:28:50

While he has no right to ask you to move your bin, it maybe just something that is aggravating him and he had to voice it. Why not find a compromise that suits both of you. The bins stay but can be brightened up by stickers as someone already suggested - and don't know if someone already said it, why not put up a little wooden "wall" around your bin, it also will protect it from the elements somewhat.

And I agree that the cancer treatment might make him more irritable. Maybe the finds it more and more difficult to come to terms with his diagnosis.

annsixty Tue 12-Sept-23 15:45:51

There are actually 4 bins and to fence them in would mean I couldn’t get to the back of my house.
If I stack them down the side against his wall abutting my boundary I can’t walk past them.
Th only answer is for them to go down the path , through the gate and into my back garden.
I am not physically capable of doing this.
Yes my GD can do it but that would mean from 7pm Thursday evening until 7pm on Friday they they will be on the pavement.
I think that would annoy him more as he would be able to see them fully instead of having to go to the extreme edge of his small bay windows to peer.
Sitting anywhere in his sitting room apart from the left hand side chair in the bay window where they have their dining table there is absolutely no view of my bins.

cc Tue 12-Sept-23 16:26:38

I think he is being unreasonable, there is no way that you can move the bins yourself. He could easily sit on the other side of the table.
Just ignore him.

LondonMzFitz Tue 12-Sept-23 17:02:48

LondonMzFitz

I think it's his attitude that would anger/irritate me. A knock with a polite - I'm so sorry to ask, but would it be possible to - " etc would be much more appropriate. I wouldn't dream of asking a neighbour to move her bins because they spoiled my view. The imagined entitlement of some people.

In my previous home I shared a drive with my neighbour, luckily we got on very well. Further up the street were a number of maisonettes (flats upstairs and downstairs), of course each with a car so the road was full of vehicles. Two neighbours, both in their 40's, had a running dispute about one neighbours girlfriends car which was always parked in front of the bins, a row that escalated into a 3am on a Sunday morning stabbing, leaving one of the men dead and the other serving 18 years for manslaughter (me first on the scene, 2 days at The Old Bailey giving evidence). I find I get very anxious now about neighbourhood relationships.

Even my lovely neighbour had his moments - I did a first cut of the year on my front lawn (wet spring, long grass, first dryish day) .. he knocked on my door to ask if my lawnmower was broken. "No", I replied, a little puzzled as I know he'd seen me cutting the grass... "Well", he said, "you haven't done a very good job, have you"?

Lovely neighbour the other side would complain to me that he couldn't put petunia's in his front garden because all the slugs from my garden would eat them. I always thought slugs were, you know, free range.

Men. Um.